linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/5] regulator: bd9571mwv: Add support for backup mode

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Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWnJwMk5DrnAQebKB23X2WJGPQ2m-0OX8-AC2QYguTQ5w@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Wed, 18 Oct 2017 13:28:30 +0200
From:   Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
To:     Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
Cc:     Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@...der.be>,
        Marek Vasut <marek.vasut+renesas@...il.com>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@...il.com>,
        Simon Horman <horms@...ge.net.au>,
        Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@...il.com>,
        Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>,
        Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@...r.kernel.org>,
        "devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
        <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Linux PM list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/5] regulator: bd9571mwv: Add support for backup mode

Hi Mark,

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 01:19:08PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 05:26:17PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> >> Backup mode is not enabled automatically, as e.g. on Renesas
>> >> Salvator-X(S) boards enabling backup mode changes the role of the ACC
>> >> switch from a power switch to a wake-up switch.  Hence enabling it
>> >> prevents the board from being powered off using the ACC switch, which
>> >> may confuse the user.
>
>> > This sounds an awful lot like the standard power/wakeup, though the
>> > power change is a bit unexpected there.  I'm also wondering if it makes
>> > sense to just only enable the wakeup mode when suspending which
>> > preserves the power off functionality while also keeping the wakeup
>> > support.
>
>> The ACC switch is not a momentary switch (push button), but a toggle
>> switch with two positions.
>> Hence you cannot enable wakeup mode while suspending, as the proper
>> system suspend/resume procedure is:
>>   1. Enable backup mode in the PMIC,
>>   2. Switch ACC off (no-op as backup mode has been enabled),
>>   3. Suspend to RAM (PSCI suspend) => system suspends,
>>   4. Switch ACC on => system wakes up.
>> If you would combine steps 1 and 3, you can no longer do step 2 in between.
>
>> Yes, it's complicated :-(
>
> I'm confused, I thought this was a physical switch but that's talking
> about this as something software controlled (at least in step 2)?

The ACC switch is a physical switch.
Steps 1 and 3 are performed by software running on the board's SoC.
Steps 2 and 4 are performed by the external user (human or remote board
farm control hookup).

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

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