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Date:   Fri, 3 Nov 2017 13:41:54 +0000
From:   Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
To:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] KAISER: unmap most of the kernel from userspace
 page tables

On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 12:38:05PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 11/02/2017 12:01 PM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 03:31:46PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >> KAISER makes it harder to defeat KASLR, but makes syscalls and
> >> interrupts slower.  These patches are based on work from a team at
> >> Graz University of Technology posted here[1].  The major addition is
> >> support for Intel PCIDs which builds on top of Andy Lutomorski's PCID
> >> work merged for 4.14.  PCIDs make KAISER's overhead very reasonable
> >> for a wide variety of use cases.
> > I just wanted to say that I've got a version of this up and running for
> > arm64. I'm still ironing out a few small details, but I hope to post it
> > after the merge window. We always use ASIDs, and the perf impact looks
> > like it aligns roughly with your findings for a PCID-enabled x86 system.
> 
> Welcome to the party!
> 
> I don't know if you've found anything different, but there been woefully
> little code that's really cross-architecture.  The kernel task
> stack-mapping stuff _was_, but it's going away.  The per-cpu-user-mapped
> section stuff might be common, I guess.

I currently don't have anything mapped other than the trampoline page, so
I haven't had to do per-cpu stuff (yet). This will interfere with perf
tracing using SPE, but if that's the only thing that needs it then it's
a hard sell, I think.

> Is there any other common infrastructure that we can or should be sharing?

I really can't see anything. My changes are broadly divided into:

  * Page table setup
  * Exception entry/exit via trampoline
  * User access (e.g. get_user)
  * TLB invalidation
  * Context switch (backend of switch_mm)

which is all deeply arch-specific.

Will

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