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Date:   Fri, 17 Nov 2017 14:03:40 +0100 (CET)
From:   Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:     Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>
cc:     "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, x86@...nel.org,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@...euvizoso.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/boot: Fix boot failure when SMP MP-table is based
 at 0

On Mon, 6 Nov 2017, Tom Lendacky wrote:
> On 11/6/2017 3:41 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > On 11/06/17 12:17, Tom Lendacky wrote:
> > > When crosvm is used to boot a kernel as a VM, the SMP MP-table is found
> > > at physical address 0x0. This causes mpf_base to be set to 0 and a
> > > subsequent "if (!mpf_base)" check in default_get_smp_config() results in
> > > the MP-table not being parsed.  Further into the boot this results in an
> > > oops when attempting a read_apic_id().
> > > 
> > > Add a boolean variable that is set to true when the MP-table is found.
> > > Use this variable for testing if the MP-table was found so that even a
> > > value of 0 for mpf_base will result in continued parsing of the MP-table.
> > > 
> > > Reported-by: Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@...euvizoso.net>
> > > Signed-off-by: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>
> > 
> > Ahem... did anyone ever tell you that this is an epicly bad idea on your
> > part?  The low megabyte of physical memory has very special meaning on
> > x86, and deviating from the standard use of this memory is a *very*
> > dangerous thing to do, and imposing on the kernel a "fake null pointer"
> > requirement that exists only for the convenience of your particular
> > brokenness is not okay.
> > 
> > 	-hpa
> 
> That was my initial thought... what was something doing down at the start
> of memory.  But when I looked at default_find_smp_config() it specifically
> scans the bottom 1K for a an MP-table signature. I was hoping to get some
> feedback as to whether this would really be an acceptable thing to do. So
> I'm good with this patch being rejected, but the change I made in
> 
> 5997efb96756 ("x86/boot: Use memremap() to map the MPF and MPC data")
> 
> does break something that was working before.

This goes back to Linux 1.1.x

/*
 * Physical page 0 is special; it's not touched by Linux since BIOS
 * and SMM (for laptops with [34]86/SL chips) may need it.  It is read
 * and write protected to detect null pointer references in the
 * kernel.
 * It may also hold the MP configuration table when we are booting SMP.
 */

and then got changed in 2.3.40 to:

	/*
	 * FIXME: Linux assumes you have 640K of base ram..
	 * this continues the error...
	 *
	 * 1) Scan the bottom 1K for a signature
	 * 2) Scan the top 1K of base RAM
	 * 3) Scan the 64K of bios
	 */
	if (smp_scan_config(0x0, 0x400) ||
	    smp_scan_config(639 * 0x400, 0x400) ||
	    smp_scan_config(0xF0000, 0x10000))
		return;

which is what we still have completely unmodified.

What hpa considers to be epic fail was added 20+ years ago and probably
with a reason. We carried that along forever and now someone looked for a
place to stick MP config in for his VM thingy and picked the first place
which is checked. Not a big surprise.

So we are stuck with it, whether we like it or not.

Thanks,

	tglx

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