linux-kernel - Re: RFC(v2): Audit Kernel Container IDs

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Message-ID: <50813ebc-5de7-c930-79dc-c1d3cfcfb172@schaufler-ca.com>
Date:   Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:52:43 -0800
From:   Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>
To:     Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>,
        Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net>,
        Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@...hat.com>, cgroups@...r.kernel.org,
        Linux Containers <containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Audit <linux-audit@...hat.com>,
        Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Cc:     mszeredi@...hat.com, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
        Simo Sorce <simo@...hat.com>, jlayton@...hat.com,
        Carlos O'Donell <carlos@...hat.com>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Eric Paris <eparis@...isplace.org>, trondmy@...marydata.com,
        Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@...il.com>
Subject: Re: RFC(v2): Audit Kernel Container IDs

On 12/11/2017 8:30 AM, Eric Paris wrote:
> On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 10:28 -0800, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>> Because a container doesn't have to use namespaces to be a container
>> you still need a mechanism for a process to declare that it is in
>> fact
>> in a container, and to identify the container.
> I like the idea but I'm still tossing it around in my head (and
> thinking about Casey's statement too). Lets say we have a 'docker-like' 
> container with pid=100  netns=X,userns=Y,mountns=Z. If I'm on the host
> in all init namespaces and I run
>   nsenter -t 100 -n ip link set eth0 promisc on
> How should this be logged? Did this command run in it's own 'container'
> unrelated to the 'docker-like' container?

Jose Bollo's PTAGS ( https://gitlab.com/jobol/ptags ) would be
prefect. Any time you declare something to be a container or
enter a namespace you slap a tag on it. Identifying nested
containers would be easy, you'd have multiple tags.

PTAGS unfortunately needs module stacking, but how hard could that be?


> -Eric