linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 19/19] fs: handle inode->i

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Message-ID: <20171218173651.GB12454@fieldses.org>
Date:   Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:36:51 -0500
From:   "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>
To:     Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>
Cc:     Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 19/19] fs: handle inode->i_version more efficiently

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 12:22:20PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 17:34 +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Mon 18-12-17 10:11:56, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > >  static inline bool
> > >  inode_maybe_inc_iversion(struct inode *inode, bool force)
> > >  {
> > > -	atomic64_t *ivp = (atomic64_t *)&inode->i_version;
> > > +	u64 cur, old, new;
> > >  
> > > -	atomic64_inc(ivp);
> > > +	cur = (u64)atomic64_read(&inode->i_version);
> > > +	for (;;) {
> > > +		/* If flag is clear then we needn't do anything */
> > > +		if (!force && !(cur & I_VERSION_QUERIED))
> > > +			return false;
> > 
> > The fast path here misses any memory barrier. Thus it seems this query
> > could be in theory reordered before any store that happened to modify the
> > inode? Or maybe we could race and miss the fact that in fact this i_version
> > has already been queried? But maybe there's some higher level locking that
> > makes sure this is all a non-issue... But in that case it would deserve
> > some comment I guess.
> > 
> 
> There's no higher-level locking. Getting locking out of this codepath is
> a good thing IMO. The larger question here is whether we really care
> about ordering this with anything else.
> 
> The i_version, as implemented today, is not ordered with actual changes
> to the inode. We only take the i_lock today when modifying it, not when
> querying it. It's possible today that you could see the results of a
> change and then do a fetch of the i_version that doesn't show an
> increment vs. a previous change.
> 
> It'd be nice if this were atomic with the actual changes that it
> represents, but I think that would be prohibitively expensive. That may
> be something we need to address. I'm not sure we really want to do it as
> part of this patchset though.

I don't think we need full atomicity, but we *do* need the i_version
increment to be seen as ordered after the inode change.  That should be
relatively inexpensive, yes?

Otherwise an inode change could be overlooked indefinitely, because a
client could cache the old contents with the new i_version value and
never see the i_version change again as long as the inode isn't touched
again.

(If the client instead caches new data with the old inode version, there
may be an unnecessary cache invalidation next time the client queries
the change attribute.  That's a performance bug, but not really a
correctness problem, at least for clients depending only on
close-to-open semantics: they'll only depend on seeing the new change
attribute after the change has been flushed to disk.  The performance
problem should be mitigated by the race being very rare.)

--b.