linux-kernel - Re: shmctl(SHM_STAT) vs. /proc/sysvipc/shm permissions discrepancies

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Date:   Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:45:40 +0100
From:   "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@...il.com>
To:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
Cc:     Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
        Manfred Spraul <manfred@...orfullife.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Mike Waychison <mikew@...gle.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: shmctl(SHM_STAT) vs. /proc/sysvipc/shm permissions discrepancies

Hello Michal,

On 19 December 2017 at 10:48, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> we have been contacted by our partner about the following permission
> discrepancy
>
> 1. Create a shared memory segment with permissions 600 with user A using
>    shmget(key, 1024, 0600 | IPC_CREAT)
> 2. ipcs -m should return an output as follows:
>
> ------ Shared Memory Segments --------
> key        shmid      owner      perms      bytes      nattch     status
> 0x58b74326 759562241  A          600        1024       0
>
> 3. Try to read the metadata with shmctl(0, SHM_STAT,...) as user B.
> 4. shmctl will return -EACCES
>
> The supper set information provided by shmctl can be retrieved by
> reading /proc/sysvipc/shm which does not require read permissions
> because it is 444.
>
> It seems that the discrepancy is there since ae7817745eef ("[PATCH] ipc:
> add generic struct ipc_ids seq_file iteration") when the proc interface
> has been introduced. The changelog is really modest on information or
> intention but I suspect this just got overlooked during review. SHM_STAT
> has always been about read permission and it is explicitly documented
> that way.

Yes, this was always a weirdness on Linux. Back before we got
/proc/sysvipc, it meant that ipcs(1) on Linux did not did not display
all IPC objects (unlike most other implementations, where ipcs(1)
showed everyone's objects, regardless of permissions). I remember
having an email conversation with Andries Brouwer about this, around
15 years ago. Eventually, an October 2012 series of util-linux patches
by Sami Kerola switched ipcs(1) to use /proc/sysvipc so that ipcs(1)
does now show all System V IPC objects.

> I am not a security expert to judge whether this leak can have some
> interesting consequences but I am really interested whether this is
> something we want to keep that way.  Do we want to filter and dump only
> shmids the caller has access to?

Do you mean change /proc/sysvipc/* output? I don't think that should
be changed. Modern ipcs(1) relies on it to do The Right Thing.

> This would break the delegation AFAICS.
> Do we want to make the file root only? That would probably break an
> existing userspace as well.
>
> Or should we simply allow SHM_STAT for processes without a read permission
> because the same information can be read by other means already?
>
> Any other ideas?

The situation is certainly odd. The only risk that I see is that
modifying *_STAT behavior could lead to behavior changes in (strange?)
programs that expect SHM_STAT / MSG_STAT / SEM_STAT to return only
information about objects for which they have read permission. But, is
there a pressing reason to make the change? (Okay, I guess iterating
using *_STAT is nicer than parsing /proc/sysvipc/*.)

Cheers,

Michael


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