linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] cpufreq: schedutil: fixes for flags updates

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Message-ID: <20171222124308.GN18612@localhost.localdomain>
Date:   Fri, 22 Dec 2017 13:43:08 +0100
From:   Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>
To:     Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@....com>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
        Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@....com>,
        Todd Kjos <tkjos@...roid.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joelaf@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] cpufreq: schedutil: fixes for flags updates

On 22/12/17 12:38, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> On 22-Dec 13:19, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 12:07:37PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > > I was thinking that since dl is a 'global' scheduler the reservation
> > > > would be too and thus the freq just needs a single CPU to be observed;
> > > 
> > > AFAIU global is only the admission control (which is something worth a
> > > thread by itself...) while the dl_se->dl_bw are aggregated into the
> > > dl_rq->running_bw, which ultimately represents the DL bandwidth
> > > required for just a CPU.
> > 
> > Oh urgh yes, forgot that.. then the dl freq stuff isn't strictly correct
> > I think. But yes, that's another thread.
> 
> Mmm... maybe I don't get your point... I was referring to the global
> admission control of DL. If you have for example 3 60% DL tasks on a
> 2CPU system, AFAIU the CBS will allow the tasks in the system (since
> the overall utilization is 180 < 200 * 0.95) although that workload is
> not necessarily schedule (for example if the tasks wakeups at the
> same time one of them will miss its deadline).
> 
> But, yeah... maybe I'm completely wrong or, in any case, it's for a
> different thread...
> 
> > > > but I suppose there's nothing stopping anybody from splitting a clock
> > > > domain down the middle scheduling wise. So yes, good point.
> > > 
> > > That makes sense... moreover, using the global utilization, we would
> > > end up asking for capacities which cannot be provided by a single CPU.
> > 
> > Yes, but that _should_ not be a problem if you clock them all high
> > enough. But this gets to be complicated real fast I think.
> 
> IMO the current solution with Juri's patches is working as expected:
> we know how many DL tasks are runnable on a CPU and we properly
> account for their utilization.
> 
> The only "issue/limitation" is (eventually) the case described above.
> Dunno if we can enqueue 2 60% DL tasks on the same CPU... in that case
> we will ask for 120% Utilization?

In general it depends on the other parameters, deadline and period.