lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <0ede46c2-5e40-4364-7740-fdb8325ef1a7@amd.com>
Date:   Thu, 4 Jan 2018 18:26:55 -0600
From:   Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>
To:     David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@...rix.com>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        "pavel@....cz" <pavel@....cz>
Cc:     "tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com" <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "torvalds@...ux-foundation.org" <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "tglx@...utronix.de" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        "andi@...stfloor.org" <andi@...stfloor.org>,
        "gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk" <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
        "dave.hansen@...el.com" <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        "gregkh@...ux-foundation.org" <gregkh@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: Avoid speculative indirect calls in kernel

On 1/4/2018 5:47 PM, Tom Lendacky wrote:
> On 1/4/2018 2:05 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
>> On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 14:00 -0600, Tom Lendacky wrote:
>>> Yes, lfence is sufficient.  As long as the target is in the register
>>> before the lfence and we jump through the register all is good, i.e.:
>>
>> Thanks. Can I have a Reviewed-by: for this then please:
> 
> Reviewed-by: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>
> 
> While this works, a more efficient way to do the lfence support would be
> to not use the retpoline in this case.  Changing the indirect jumps to
> do the "mov [rax], rax; lfence; jmp *rax" sequence would be quicker. I'm
> not sure if this is feasible given the need to do a retpoline if you can't
> use lfence, though.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 

I do need to send the patches that make lfence a serializing instruction
for AMD.  I'll get those out as soon as I can.

Thanks,
Tom

>>
>> http://git.infradead.org/users/dwmw2/linux-retpoline.git/commitdiff/08d9eda03
>>
>> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw@...zon.co.uk>
>> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 20:01:53 +0000
>> Subject: [PATCH] x86/retpoline: Simplify AMD variant of retpoline thunk
>>
>> On AMD (which is X86_FEATURE_K8), just the lfence is sufficient.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@...zon.co.uk>
>> ---
>>  arch/x86/lib/retpoline.S | 2 +-
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/lib/retpoline.S b/arch/x86/lib/retpoline.S
>> index bbdda5cc136e..26070976bff0 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/lib/retpoline.S
>> +++ b/arch/x86/lib/retpoline.S
>> @@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
>>  
>>  ENTRY(__x86.indirect_thunk.\reg)
>>  	CFI_STARTPROC
>> -	ALTERNATIVE "call 2f", __stringify(jmp *%\reg), X86_BUG_NO_RETPOLINE
>> +	ALTERNATIVE_2 "call 2f", __stringify(lfence;jmp *%\reg), X86_FEATURE_K8, __stringify(jmp *%\reg), X86_BUG_NO_RETPOLINE
>>  1:
>>  	lfence
>>  	jmp	1b
>> -- 
>> 2.14.3
>>

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ