linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v6 11/10] x86/retpoline: Avoid return buffer underflows on context switch

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Message-ID: <20180109004415.GG6718@tassilo.jf.intel.com>
Date:   Mon, 8 Jan 2018 16:44:15 -0800
From:   Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     "Woodhouse, David" <dwmw@...zon.co.uk>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com" <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 11/10] x86/retpoline: Avoid return buffer underflows
 on context switch

> So I was really hoping that in places like context switching etc, we'd
> be able to instead effectively kill off any exploits by clearing
> registers.
> 
> That should make it pretty damn hard to then find a matching "gadget"
> that actually does anything interesting/powerful.
> 
> Together with Spectre already being pretty hard to take advantage of,
> and the eBPF people making those user-proivided gadgets inaccessible,
> it really should be a pretty powerful fix.
> 
> Hmm?

Essentially the RSB are hidden registers, and the only way to clear them
is the FILL_RETURN_BUFFER sequence.  I don't see how clearing anything else
would help?

-Andi