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Message-ID: <20180111064631.GD14920@1wt.eu>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:46:31 +0100
From: Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, x86@...nel.org,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] x86/entry/pti: avoid setting CR3 when it's
already correct
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:29:17PM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 01/09/2018 04:56 AM, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > --- a/arch/x86/entry/calling.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/entry/calling.h
> > @@ -214,6 +214,11 @@
> > .macro SWITCH_TO_KERNEL_CR3 scratch_reg:req
> > ALTERNATIVE "jmp .Lend_\@", "", X86_FEATURE_PTI
> > mov %cr3, \scratch_reg
> > +
> > + /* if we're already on the kernel PGD, we don't switch */
> > + testq $(PTI_SWITCH_PGTABLES_MASK), \scratch_reg
> > + jz .Lend_\@
> > +
> > ADJUST_KERNEL_CR3 \scratch_reg
>
> Willy, this is not specific to your patch, but it is one of the first
> *changes* to this code since Spectre, thus I'm bringing it up in this
> thread.
>
> The code already has some, but new conditional branches give me the
> willies. None of them take the form that can be used to exploit
> Spectre/Variant1 that I can see, but I do think we need to start talking
> about why this is not vulnerable and probably documenting it in the
> entry code.
>
> Spectre/V1 (conditional branches)
> * Data reads in entry/exit when you have the user CR3 must be in
> cpu_entry_area and readable to a Meltdown exploit, anyway. That
> implies that there is no data to be leaked in the address space
> at all at this point.
> * Conditional branches in the entry/exit code with a kernel CR3 value
> are the only concern. It is safe, however, if the data being checked
> is not user-controllable.
>
> Spectre/V2 (indirect branches)
> * Indirect Branches in the entry code are forbidden because of
> Spectre/V2. Retpolines or other mitigations (IBRS) must be used
> instead.
>
> Anybody disagree?
>
> In this case, the data being checked (CR3) is not user-controllable and
> there are no indirect branches. So this code is OK.
Just let me know what comment you'd like me to add there. I suppose
something like "This code has code has been checked against Spectre/v1/v2
attacks ; it's safe as CR3 is not user-controllable and there's no
indirect branches" ?
Thanks,
Willy
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