linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/3] objtool: Ignore retpoline alternatives

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Date:   Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:25:27 -0600
From:   Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
To:     David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
Cc:     x86@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...gle.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
        Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>, gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] objtool: Ignore retpoline alternatives

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 04:55:18PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-01-11 at 10:48 -0600, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > 
> > The above macro is protected by '#ifdef RETPOLINE', and I seriously
> > doubt 0-day is testing with an unreleased version of GCC.  So you
> > shouldn't see a 0-day warning.
> 
> It's actually #ifdef CONFIG_RETPOLINE isn't it? 
> 
> If you enable CONFIG_RETPOLINE but don't have a new compiler, you still
> get all the asm thunks (which are the easy-to-attack targets). Only if
> you have a new compiler is RETPOLINE also set.

#if defined(CONFIG_X86_64) && defined(RETPOLINE)

#define ANNOTATE_NOSPEC_ALTERNATIVE				\
	".Lannotate_%=:\n\t"					\
	".pushsection .discard.nospec\n\t"			\
	".long .Lannotate_%= - .\n\t"				\
	".popsection\n\t"

/*
 * Since the inline asm uses the %V modifier which is only in newer GCC,
 * the 64-bit one is dependent on RETPOLINE not CONFIG_RETPOLINE.
 */
# define CALL_NOSPEC						\
...

> Also, the RSB stuffing we're looking at here is also needed for the
> IBRS-based mitigation, so won't even be under CONFIG_RETPOLINE by the
> time the IBRS patch set is beaten into shape on top. It'll probably be
> unconditional unless we get a CONFIG_IBRS_SUPPORT (which hasn't been
> suggested so far).

True.  Maybe try changing the above to CONFIG_RETPOLINE and see if 0-day
complains.

> > I think I heard that retpolines won't be ported to anything older than
> > GCC 4.9, so maybe it's safe to use '%='.  I don't remember when it was
> > introduced into GCC though.
> 
> Hm. Peter? This is all your fault, right? Did you know you were making
> us ditch compatibility for older GCC?
> 
> Precisely when *did* %= get added to GCC?

I'm still scratching my head about this one.  From what I can tell, even
4.4 has it.  I can't find any notes or old 0-day warnings which would
tell me, but I remember running into the problem multiple times, so I'm
pretty sure I'm not hallucinating.

> Note that we can also just resort to using .macro even from inline asm.
> It just takes a rather icky asm(".include ..."). :)

Ew :-)

-- 
Josh