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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:31:24 +0900
From: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com>
To: Marc Herbert <Marc.Herbert@...el.com>
Cc: Thiago Macieira <thiago.macieira@...el.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
Guenter Roeck <groeck@...gle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove silentoldconfig from "make help"; fix
kconfig/conf's help
Hi Marc,
Sorry for my late reply.
2018-01-13 7:49 GMT+09:00 Marc Herbert <Marc.Herbert@...el.com>:
> Masahiro,
>
> On 09/01/2018 23:17, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
>
>> > "(oldconfig used to be more verbose)"
>
>> The historical background is git.
>> If people are interested in archeology,
>> they would be able to do it by "git log", "git blame", etc.
>> We are generally interested in the current behavior.
>
> I'd like to keep that sentence because it's there to explain the legacy and
> confusing "--silentoldconfig" name which unfortunately still sticks out in
> the *current* conf.c interface.
>
> + printf(" --silentoldconfig Similar to oldconfig but generates configuration in\n"
> + " include/{generated/,config/} (oldconfig used to be more verbose)\n");
>
> The purpose of this sentence is to warn people that: "silentoldconfig is
> just archeology, so you can safely ignore it" and save them time.
>
> The alternative I considered was to entirely remove "silentconfig" not just
> from the Makefile's help but from the conf.c help too.
>
> Thoughts?
Another possibility might be to rename 'silentoldconfig'.
instead of explaining the background in the help message.
Your git-log 'internal interface' implies
renaming has no impact.
Commit fb16d8912db5268f29706010ecafff74b971c58d
renamed oldnoconfig to olddefconfig
to match the name to its behavior.
Then, I want to drop the 'oldnoconfig' alias:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10172375/
If we worry about the compatibility just in case,
we can keep 'silentoldconfig' as an alias as well.
It is difficult to suggest a clear name,
but 'syncconfig' is the one I came up with.
Please suggest if you have a better idea.
What do you think?
--
Best Regards
Masahiro Yamada
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