linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 00/16] PTI support for x86-32

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Message-ID: <20180123145717.75c84e9a@alans-desktop>
Date:   Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:57:17 +0000
From:   Alan Cox <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:     Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>
Cc:     Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@...il.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@...nel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
        Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
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        Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
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        Eduardo Valentin <eduval@...zon.com>,
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        Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
        Waiman Long <llong@...hat.com>, jroedel@...e.de
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/16] PTI support for x86-32

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:56:25 +0100
Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org> wrote:

> Hey Nadav,
> 
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 03:46:24PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > It does seem that segmentation provides sufficient protection from Meltdown.  
> 
> Thanks for testing this, if this turns out to be true for all affected
> uarchs it would be a great and better way of protection than enabling
> PTI.
> 
> But I'd like an official statement from Intel on that one, as their
> recommended fix is still to use PTI.
> 
> And as you said, if it turns out that this works only on some Intel
> uarchs, we can also detect it at runtime and then chose the fasted
> meltdown protection mechanism.

I'll follow this up and get an official statement.

Alan