linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5 02/12] array_idx: sanitize speculative array de-references

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Message-ID: <CAPcyv4i__O1VjkcSOKTsbX28VFrC8GJH-sd4TAxYECqOhoDs+g@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:45:38 -0800
From:   Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
To:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Cc:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
        Cyril Novikov <cnovikov@...x.com>,
        Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Alan Cox <alan@...ux.intel.com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/12] array_idx: sanitize speculative array de-references

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> * Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com> wrote:
>
>> Thomas, Peter, and Alexei wanted s/nospec_barrier/ifence/ and
>
> I just checked past discussions, and I cannot find that part, got any links or
> message-IDs?
>
> PeterZ's feedback on Jan 8 was:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 06:24:11PM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> > How about:
>> > CONFIG_SPECTRE1_WORKAROUND_INDEX_MASK
>> > CONFIG_SPECTRE1_WORKAROUND_LOAD_FENCE
>>
>> INSTRUCTION_FENCE if anything. LFENCE for Intel (and now also for AMD as
>> per 0592b0bce169) is a misnomer, IFENCE would be a better name for it.
>
> Which in that context clearly talked about the config space and how to name the
> instruction semantics in light of the confusion of LFENCE and MFENCE opcodes on
> Intel and AMD CPUs...
>
> Also, those early reviews were fundamentally low level feedback related to the
> actual functionality of the barriers and their mapping to the hardware.
>
> But the fact is, the current series introduces an inconsistent barrier namespace
> extension of:
>
>         barrier()
>         barrier_data()
>         mb()
>         rmb()
>         wmb()
>         store_mb()
>         read_barrier_depends()
>         ...
> +       ifence()
> +       array_idx()
> +       array_idx_mask()
>
> This isn't bikeshed painting: _ALL_ existing barrier API names have 'barrier' or
> its abbreviation 'mb' (memory barrier) somewhere in their names, which makes it
> pretty easy to recognize them at a glance.
>
> I'm giving you high level API naming feedback because we are now growing the size
> of the barrier API.
>
> array_idx() on the other hand is pretty much close to a 'worst possible' name:
>
>  - it's named in an overly generic, opaque fashion
>  - doesn't indicate it at all that it's a barrier for something
>
> ... and since we want all kernel developers to use these facilities correctly, we
> want the names to be good and suggestive as well.
>
> I'd accept pretty much anything else that adds 'barrier' or 'nospec' to the name:
> array_idx_barrier() or array_idx_nospec(). (I'm slightly leaning towards 'nospec'
> because it's more indicative of what is being done, and it also is what we do for
> get uaccess APIs.)
>
> ifence() is a similar departure from existing barrier naming nomenclature, and I'd
> accept pretty much any other variant:
>
>         barrier_nospec()
>         ifence_nospec()
>
> The kernel namespace cleanliness rules are clear and consistent, and there's
> nothing new about them:
>
>  - the name of the API should unambiguously refer back to the API category. For
>    barriers this common reference is 'barrier' or 'mb'.
>
>  - use postfixes or prefixes consistently: pick one and don't mix them. If we go
>    with a _nospec() variant for the uaccess API names then we should use a similar
>    naming for array_idx() and for the new barrier as well - no mixing.

This is the feedback I can take action with, thank you.

>
>> You can always follow on with a patch to fix up the names and placements to your
>> liking. While they'll pick on my name choices, they won't pick on yours, because
>> I simply can't be bothered to care about a bikeshed color at this point after
>> being bounced around for 5 revisions of this patch set.
>
> Sorry, this kind of dismissive and condescending attitude won't cut it.

I reacted to your "for heaven's sake", I'll send a v6.