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Date:   Wed, 07 Feb 2018 09:13:57 -0800
From:   hpa@...or.com
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>
CC:     the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@...nel.org>,
        Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>, linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] x86: Patchable constants

On February 7, 2018 9:01:42 AM PST, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov
><kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
>> This patchset introduces concept of patchable constants: constant
>values
>> that can be adjusted at boot-time in response to system configuration
>or
>> user input (kernel command-line).
>>
>> Patchable constants can replace variables that never changes at
>runtime
>> (only at boot-time), but used in very hot path.
>
>So I actually wanted something very close to this, but I think your
>approach is much too simplistic.
>
>You force all constants into a register, which means that the
>resulting code is always going to be very far from non-optimal.
>
>You also force a big "movabsq" instruction, which really is huge, and
>almost never needed. Together with the "use a register", it just makes
>for big code.
>
>What I wanted was something that can take things like a shift by a
>variable that is set once, and turn it into a shift by a boot-time
>constant. Which means that you literally end up patching the 8-bit
>immediate in the shift instruction itself.
>
>In particular, was looking at the dcache hashing code, and (to quote
>an old email of mine), what I wanted was to simplify the run-time
>constant part of this:
>
>│ mov $0x20,%ecx
>│ sub 0xaf8bd5(%rip),%ecx # ffffffff81d34600 <d_hash_shift>
>│ mov 0x8(%rsi),%r9
>│ add %r14d,%eax
>│ imul $0x9e370001,%eax,%eax
>│ shr %cl,%eax
>
>and it was the expression "32-d_hash_shift" that is really a constant,
>and that sequence of
>
>│ mov $0x20,%ecx
>│ sub 0xaf8bd5(%rip),%ecx # ffffffff81d34600 <d_hash_shift>
>│ shr %cl,%eax
>
>should be just a single
>
>│ shr $CONSTANT,%eax
>
>at runtime.
>
>Look - much smaller code, and register %rcx isn't used at all. And no
>D$ miss on loading that constant (that is a constant depending on
>boot-time setup only).
>
>It's rather more complex, but it actually gives a much bigger win. The
>code itself will be much better, and smaller.
>
>The *infrastructure* for the code gets pretty hairy, though.
>
>The good news is that the patch already existed to at least _some_
>degree. Peter Anvin did it about 18 months ago.
>
>It was not really pursued all the way because it *is* a lot of extra
>complexity, and I think there was some other hold-up, but he did have
>skeleton code for the actual replacement.
>
>There was a thread on the x86 arch list with the subject line
>
>    Disgusting pseudo-self-modifying code idea: "variable constants"
>
>but I'm unable to actually find the patch. I know there was at least a
>vert early prototype.
>
>Adding hpa to the cc in the hope that he has some prototype code still
>laying around..
>
>                Linus

I am currently working on it much more comprehensive set of patches for extremely this. I am already much further ahead and support most operations.
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