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Message-ID: <CAGXu5j+hv6G3m+fgr7ibXAnoE-2GsxtXoqr0pd5AaaNdFVQxYg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 9 Feb 2018 12:46:54 -0800
From:   Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:     Ulf Magnusson <ulfalizer@...il.com>
Cc:     Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com>,
        Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@...aro.org>,
        "Luis R . Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...e.com>,
        Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
        Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
        Michal Marek <michal.lkml@...kovi.net>,
        Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>,
        Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
        linux-s390 <linux-s390@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/7] kconfig: support new special property shell=

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 4:46 AM, Ulf Magnusson <ulfalizer@...il.com> wrote:
> One thing that makes Kconfig confusing (though it works well enough in
> practice) is that .config files both record user selections (the saved
> configuration) and serve as a configuration output format for make.
>
> It becomes easier to think about .config files once you realize that
> assignments to promptless symbols never have an effect on Kconfig
> itself: They're just configuration output, intermixed with the saved
> user selections.
>
> Assume 'option env' symbols got written out for example:
>
>         - For a non-user-assignable symbol, the entry in the .config
>           file is just configuration output and ignored by Kconfig,
>           which will fetch the value from the environment instead.
>
>         - For an assignable 'option env' symbol, the entry in the
>           .config file is a saved user selection (as well as
>           configuration output), and will be respected by Kconfig.

In the stack-protector case, this becomes quite important, since the
goal is to record the user's selection regardless of compiler
capability. For example, if someone selects _REGULAR, it shouldn't
"upgrade" to _STRONG. (Similarly for _NONE.) Having _AUTO provides a
way to pick "best possible for this compiler", though. If a user had
previously selected _STRONG but they're doing builds with an older
compiler (or a misconfigured newer compiler) without support, the goal
is to _fail_ to build, not silently select _REGULAR.

So, in this case, what's gained is the logic for _AUTO, and the logic
to not show, say, _STRONG when it's not available in the compiler. But
we must still fail to build if _STRONG was in the .config. It can't
silently rewrite it to _REGULAR because the compiler support for
_STRONG regressed.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Pixel Security