linux-kernel - arm64 physmap (was Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 4/6] Protectable Memory)

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Message-ID: <2f23544a-bd24-1e71-967b-e8d1cf5a20a3@redhat.com>
Date:   Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:06:06 -0800
From:   Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com>
To:     Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Cc:     Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@...wei.com>,
        Boris Lukashev <blukashev@...pervictus.com>,
        Christopher Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
        linux-security-module <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>,
        linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: arm64 physmap (was Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 4/6] Protectable
 Memory)

On 02/13/2018 01:43 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com> wrote:
>> No, arm64 doesn't fixup the aliases, mostly because arm64 uses larger
>> page sizes which can't be broken down at runtime. CONFIG_PAGE_POISONING
>> does use 4K pages which could be adjusted at runtime. So yes, you are
>> right we would have physmap exposure on arm64 as well.
> 
> Errr, so that means even modules and kernel code are writable via the
> arm64 physmap? That seems extraordinarily bad. :(
> 
> -Kees
> 

(adding linux-arm-kernel and changing the subject)

Kernel code should be fine, if it isn't that is a bug that should be
fixed. Modules yes are not fully protected. The conclusion from past
experience has been that we cannot safely break down larger page sizes
at runtime like x86 does. We could theoretically
add support for fixing up the alias if PAGE_POISONING is enabled but
I don't know who would actually use that in production. Performance
is very poor at that point.

Thanks,
Laura