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Message-ID: <CAAFQd5CzOJ0oS8LLcKP-DgyXSXgzafg5CWPAvnR-QDPS+DZAUg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 22 Feb 2018 23:12:19 +0900
From:   Tomasz Figa <tfiga@...omium.org>
To:     Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
        Vivek Gautam <vivek.gautam@...eaurora.org>
Cc:     Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        "list@....net:IOMMU DRIVERS" <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
        Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com>, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        dri-devel <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        freedreno <freedreno@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        David Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...eaurora.org>,
        linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org>,
        jcrouse@...eaurora.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 6/6] drm/msm: iommu: Replace runtime calls with runtime suppliers

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com> wrote:
> [sorry, I had intended to reply sooner but clearly forgot]
>
>
> On 16/02/18 00:13, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:14 AM, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 15/02/18 04:17, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you elaborate on what kind of locking you are concerned about?
>>>>> As I explained before, the normally happening fast path would lock
>>>>> dev->power_lock only for the brief moment of incrementing the runtime
>>>>> PM usage counter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My bad, that's not even it.
>>>>
>>>> The atomic usage counter is incremented beforehands, without any
>>>> locking [1] and the spinlock is acquired only for the sake of
>>>> validating that device's runtime PM state remained valid indeed [2],
>>>> which would be the case in the fast path of the same driver doing two
>>>> mappings in parallel, with the master powered on (and so the SMMU,
>>>> through device links; if master was not powered on already, powering
>>>> on the SMMU is unavoidable anyway and it would add much more latency
>>>> than the spinlock itself).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We now have no locking at all in the map path, and only a per-domain lock
>>> around TLB sync in unmap which is unfortunately necessary for
>>> correctness;
>>> the latter isn't too terrible, since in "serious" hardware it should only
>>> be
>>> serialising a few cpus serving the same device against each other (e.g.
>>> for
>>> multiple queues on a single NIC).
>>>
>>> Putting in a global lock which serialises *all* concurrent map and unmap
>>> calls for *all* unrelated devices makes things worse. Period. Even if the
>>> lock itself were held for the minimum possible time, i.e. trivially
>>> "spin_lock(&lock); spin_unlock(&lock)", the cost of repeatedly bouncing
>>> that
>>> one cache line around between 96 CPUs across two sockets is not
>>> negligible.
>>
>>
>> Fair enough. Note that we're in a quite interesting situation now:
>>   a) We need to have runtime PM enabled on Qualcomm SoC to have power
>> properly managed,
>>   b) We need to have lock-free map/unmap on such distributed systems,
>>   c) If runtime PM is enabled, we need to call into runtime PM from any
>> code that does hardware accesses, otherwise the IOMMU API (and so DMA
>> API and then any V4L2 driver) becomes unusable.
>>
>> I can see one more way that could potentially let us have all the
>> three. How about enabling runtime PM only on selected implementations
>> (e.g. qcom,smmu) and then having all the runtime PM calls surrounded
>> with if (pm_runtime_enabled()), which is lockless?
>
>
> Yes, that's the kind of thing I was gravitating towards - my vague thought
> was adding some flag to the smmu_domain, but pm_runtime_enabled() does look
> conceptually a lot cleaner.

Great, thanks. Looks like we're in agreement now. \o/

Vivek, does this sound reasonable to you?

Best regards,
Tomasz

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