linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4 v2] Define killable version for access_remote

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Message-ID: <4ec32e5b-af63-f412-2213-e52bdbcc9585@linux.alibaba.com>
Date:   Mon, 26 Feb 2018 17:25:52 -0800
From:   Yang Shi <yang.shi@...ux.alibaba.com>
To:     David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
Cc:     akpm@...ux-foundation.org, mingo@...nel.org, adobriyan@...il.com,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4 v2] Define killable version for access_remote_vm()
 and use it in fs/proc



On 2/26/18 5:02 PM, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2018, Yang Shi wrote:
>
>> Background:
>> When running vm-scalability with large memory (> 300GB), the below hung
>> task issue happens occasionally.
>>
>> INFO: task ps:14018 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
>>         Tainted: G            E 4.9.79-009.ali3000.alios7.x86_64 #1
>>   "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
>>   ps              D    0 14018      1 0x00000004
>>    ffff885582f84000 ffff885e8682f000 ffff880972943000 ffff885ebf499bc0
>>    ffff8828ee120000 ffffc900349bfca8 ffffffff817154d0 0000000000000040
>>    00ffffff812f872a ffff885ebf499bc0 024000d000948300 ffff880972943000
>>   Call Trace:
>>    [<ffffffff817154d0>] ? __schedule+0x250/0x730
>>    [<ffffffff817159e6>] schedule+0x36/0x80
>>    [<ffffffff81718560>] rwsem_down_read_failed+0xf0/0x150
>>    [<ffffffff81390a28>] call_rwsem_down_read_failed+0x18/0x30
>>    [<ffffffff81717db0>] down_read+0x20/0x40
>>    [<ffffffff812b9439>] proc_pid_cmdline_read+0xd9/0x4e0
>>    [<ffffffff81253c95>] ? do_filp_open+0xa5/0x100
>>    [<ffffffff81241d87>] __vfs_read+0x37/0x150
>>    [<ffffffff812f824b>] ? security_file_permission+0x9b/0xc0
>>    [<ffffffff81242266>] vfs_read+0x96/0x130
>>    [<ffffffff812437b5>] SyS_read+0x55/0xc0
>>    [<ffffffff8171a6da>] entry_SYSCALL_64_fastpath+0x1a/0xc5
>>
>> When manipulating a large mapping, the process may hold the mmap_sem for
>> long time, so reading /proc/<pid>/cmdline may be blocked in
>> uninterruptible state for long time.
>> We already have killable version APIs for semaphore, here use down_read_killable()
>> to improve the responsiveness.
>>
> Rather than killable, we have patches that introduce down_read_unfair()
> variants for the files you've modified (cmdline and environ) as well as
> others (maps, numa_maps, smaps).

You mean you have such functionality used by google internally?

>
> When another thread is holding down_read() and there are queued
> down_write()'s, down_read_unfair() allows for grabbing the rwsem without
> queueing for it.  Additionally, when another thread is holding
> down_write(), down_read_unfair() allows for queueing in front of other
> threads trying to grab it for write as well.

It sounds the __unfair variant make the caller have chance to jump the 
gun to grab the semaphore before other waiters, right? But when a 
process holds the semaphore, i.e. mmap_sem, for a long time, it still 
has to sleep in uninterruptible state, right?

But, it seems __unfair variant may not be very helpful in this usecase. 
Reading /proc might be not that important to require any special care to 
grab the semaphore before other waiters. I just hope it doesn't sleep in 
uninterruptible state for a long time. If the user is not patient enough 
due to some reason, they can have a chance to abort.

>
> Ingo would know more about whether a variant like that in upstream Linux
> would be acceptable.
>
> Would you be interested in unfair variants instead of only addressing
> killable?

Yes, I'm although it still looks overkilling to me for reading /proc.

Thanks,
Yang