linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 1/3 RESEND] tpm: add longer timeouts for creation commands.

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Message-Id: <1520436169.10396.516.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:   Wed, 07 Mar 2018 10:22:49 -0500
From:   Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>
Cc:     James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
        "Winkler, Tomas" <tomas.winkler@...el.com>,
        Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Usyskin, Alexander" <alexander.usyskin@...el.com>,
        "linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org" <linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org" 
        <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3 RESEND] tpm: add longer timeouts for creation
 commands.

On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 14:59 -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 01:36:36PM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 08:32 -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 08:06 +0000, Winkler, Tomas wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 01:09:09PM +0000, Winkler, Tomas wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why you need cover letter?  What are u missing in the patch
> > > > > > description
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you submit a *patch set* I *require* a cover letter, yes.
> > > > 
> > > > It's good but it is not must, you are inventing your own rules.
> > > 
> > > As long as the Maintainer is the gatekeeper, you're not going to get
> > > very far with this argument.  The fact is that a lot of subsystems have
> > > varying rules; often undocumented, some of which are even in conflict,
> > > like alphabetic vs reverse christmas tree format for includes.
> > > 
> > > A cover letter is actually one of the more uniform rules.  It's
> > > referred to in submitting patches, but not actually documented there.
> > 
> > I've heard that some maintainers are moving away from cover letters,
> > since they are not include in the git repo and are lost.  I've seen
> > Andrew Morton cut and paste the cover letter in the first patch
> > description of the patch set.
> 
> Andrew has a workflow unlike any other I've seen..

Andrew is the only one that actually cut and pasted the cover letter
in the first patch description, but I've heard this from others.

> In my view the cover letter should explain why the maintainer should
> apply the series, and give any guidance to the review process.

> Not duplicate information that belongs in the patch comments. It
> shouldn't explain how/why the patch(es) works, etc.

Patch descriptions should never explain how/why a particular patch
works.  If it is that difficult to understand, then something is wrong
with the patch.  The individual patch descriptions should provide the
current status, the motivation for the change, and short summary of
the change (eg. new features, configs, etc).

The cover letter is needed for (larger) patch sets in order to explain
the overall motivation, instead of having to guess where the patch set
is going.  I wouldn't expect to see a cover letter for a single bug
fix or two.

Mimi