linux-kernel - Re: [RFT][PATCH v4 4/7] cpuidle: Return nohz hint from cpuidle

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Message-ID: <1998970.adS4ugIWGe@aspire.rjw.lan>
Date:   Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:54:59 +0100
From:   "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Paul McKenney <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Thomas Ilsche <thomas.ilsche@...dresden.de>,
        Doug Smythies <dsmythies@...us.net>,
        Rik van Riel <riel@...riel.com>,
        Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@...ux.intel.com>,
        Mike Galbraith <mgalbraith@...e.de>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFT][PATCH v4 4/7] cpuidle: Return nohz hint from cpuidle_select()

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:59:29 PM CET Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:54:18AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > @@ -378,6 +384,26 @@ static int menu_select(struct cpuidle_dr
> >  	if (idx == -1)
> >  		idx = 0; /* No states enabled. Must use 0. */
> >  
> > +	if (drv->states[idx].flags & CPUIDLE_FLAG_POLLING) {
> > +		*nohz_ret = false;
> > +	} else if (drv->states[idx].target_residency < TICK_USEC_HZ) {
> > +		first_idx = idx;
> > +		for (i = idx + 1; i < drv->state_count; i++) {
> > +			if (!drv->states[i].disabled &&
> > +			    !dev->states_usage[i].disable) {
> > +				first_idx = i;
> > +				break;
> > +			}
> 		}
> > +
> > +		/*
> > +		 * Do not stop the tick if there is at least one more state
> > +		 * within the tick period range that could be used if longer
> > +		 * idle duration was predicted.
> > +		 */
> > +		*nohz_ret = !(first_idx > idx &&
> > +			      drv->states[first_idx].target_residency < TICK_USEC_HZ);
> 
> 
> Why though? That comment only states what it does, but gives no clue as
> to why we're doing this. What was wrong with disabling NOHZ if the
> selected state (@idx) has shorter target residency.
> 
> 
> > +	}
> > +
> >  	data->last_state_idx = idx;
> >  
> >  	return data->last_state_idx;
> > 
> 

I invented this complicated logic because of the concern that using
predicted_us alone may skew the prediction algotithm too much towards
the lower values, so the idea was (roughly) to allow CPUs to be idle
for longer times more aggressively.  That is, to stop the tick even
in some cases in which predicted_us was below the tick period length,
but then again not too often.

It appears to work, but you are right that it is confusing and on
a second thought simpler code is always better as long as it gets the
job done.

I'll rework this and resend the series later today.

Thanks!