lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <066acb95-3140-904d-f599-84c1f94ad27c@redhat.com>
Date:   Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:43:44 -0400
From:   Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>
To:     Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:     Li Zefan <lizefan@...wei.com>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, cgroups@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
        kernel-team@...com, pjt@...gle.com, luto@...capital.net,
        efault@....de, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
        Roman Gushchin <guro@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] cpuset: Add cpuset.flags control knob to v2

On 03/20/2018 04:22 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Waiman.
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 04:12:25PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> After some thought, I am planning to impose the following additional
>> constraints on how sched_load_balance works in v2.
>>
>> 1) sched_load_balance will be made hierarchical, the child will inherit
>> the flag from its parent.
>> 2) cpu_exclusive will be implicitly associated with sched_load_balance.
>> IOW, sched_load_balance => !cpu_exclusive, and !sched_load_balance =>
>> cpu_exclusive.
>> 3) sched_load_balance cannot be 1 on a child if it is 0 on the parent.
>>
>> With these changes, sched_load_balance will have to be set by the parent
>> and so will not be delegatable. Please let me know your thought on that.
> So, for configurations, we usually don't let them interact across
> hierarchy because that can lead to configurations surprise-changing
> and delegated children locking the parent into the current config.
>
> This case could be different and as long as we always guarantee that
> an ancestor isn't limited by its descendants in what it can configure,
> it should be okay (e.g. an ancestor should always be able to turn on
> sched_load_balance regardless of how the descendants are configured).

Yes, I will do some testing to make sure that a descendant won't be able
to affect how the ancestors can behave.

> Hmmm... can you explain why sched_load_balance needs to behave this
> way?

It boils down to the fact that it doesn't make sense to have a CPU in an
isolated cpuset to participate in load balancing in another cpuset as
Mike has said before. It is especially true in a parent-child
relationship where a delegatee can escape CPU isolation by re-enabling
sched_load_balance in a child cpuset.

Cheers,
Longman

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ