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Message-ID: <20180323145049.GF4229@kernel.org>
Date:   Fri, 23 Mar 2018 11:50:49 -0300
From:   Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>
To:     "Jin, Yao" <yao.jin@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>, jolsa@...nel.org,
        peterz@...radead.org, mingo@...hat.com,
        alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com, Linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        ak@...ux.intel.com, kan.liang@...el.com, yao.jin@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf util: Display warning when perf report/annotate is
 missing some libs

Em Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:09:03AM +0800, Jin, Yao escreveu:
> On 3/22/2018 4:51 PM, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 09:04:10AM +0800, Jin, Yao wrote:
> > > On 3/21/2018 11:38 PM, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:11:10AM +0800, Jin, Yao wrote:
> > > > > Hi Jiri,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm still thinking it's worth displaying the warning when perf missing some
> > > > > libraries.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Somebody just told me that perf didn't work well. While after some
> > > > > investigations, I found it's just missing some libraries when building the
> > > > > perf.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But I have spent some time on getting the root cause. If with this patch, it
> > > > > should be very easily to know that.
> > > > 
> > > > true.. Arnaldo, any feedback on this one?
> > > > 
> > > > > > I just think it'd better provide some hints to user. For example,
> > > > > > "symbol is disabled and you need to install libelf/xxx", say something
> > > > > > like that.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But it looks the column can't contain too much information (i.e. no more
> > > > > > space to contain the entire hints).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Any idea? Or just add this warning in verbose mode?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > also your change does not affect tui mode
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > annotation for some reason does not start at all.. could be
> > > > > > > little more verbose ;-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > jirka
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, it doesn't affect tui mode.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Or we just add this warning in verbose mode?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > e.g. perf report -v?
> > > > 
> > > > how about displaying libraries separately with -vv output,
> > > > that would mimic the build message, like:
> > > > 
> > > >     $ ./perf -vv
> > > >     perf version 4.16.rc6.g18fd48
> > > > 
> > > >                      dwarf: [ on  ]
> > > >         dwarf_getlocations: [ on  ]
> > > >                      glibc: [ on  ]
> > > >                       gtk2: [ on  ]
> > > >                   libaudit: [ on  ]
> > > >                     libbfd: [ on  ]
> > > >                     libelf: [ on  ]
> > > >                    libnuma: [ on  ]
> > > >     numa_num_possible_cpus: [ on  ]
> > > >                    libperl: [ on  ]
> > > >                  libpython: [ on  ]
> > > >                   libslang: [ on  ]
> > > >                  libcrypto: [ on  ]
> > > >                  libunwind: [ on  ]
> > > >         libdw-dwarf-unwind: [ on  ]
> > > >                       zlib: [ on  ]
> > > >                       lzma: [ on  ]
> > > >                  get_cpuid: [ on  ]
> > > >                        bpf: [ on  ]
> > > > 
> > > > and perf -vvv could display the 'make VF=1' info
> > > > 
> > > > jirka
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm just afraid that the newbie will not check the -vv on his own when he
> > > gets trouble in using perf.
> > > 
> > > In other words, if a user is experienced and he knows -vv yet, I may assume
> > > that he should know installing all libraries before building the perf.
> > > 
> > > This patch is specific for the perf newbie. It will directly shows the
> > > error/warning when the user launches the perf binary. It will have a little
> > > bit helps, I guess. :)
> > 
> > I just don't like the idea that when you run perf report,
> > or annotate it spits out lines for every missing feature
> > 
> > maybe we could detect missing features for given command
> > and display line about missing features and say something
> > like:
> > 
> > 'Warning: symbol,dwarf support not compiled in (for more details run perf -vv)'
> > 
> > or somwthing like that.. ;-)
> > 
> > jirka
> > 
> 
> Hi Jiri,
> 
> I think your idea is very good!
> 
> I guess following it's just an example copied from perf building process,
> right?
> 
> $ ./perf -vv
> perf version 4.16.rc6.g18fd48
> 
>                  dwarf: [ on  ]
>     dwarf_getlocations: [ on  ]
>                  glibc: [ on  ]
>                   gtk2: [ on  ]
>               libaudit: [ on  ]
>                 libbfd: [ on  ]
>                 libelf: [ on  ]
>                libnuma: [ on  ]
> numa_num_possible_cpus: [ on  ]
>                libperl: [ on  ]
>              libpython: [ on  ]
>               libslang: [ on  ]
>              libcrypto: [ on  ]
>              libunwind: [ on  ]
>     libdw-dwarf-unwind: [ on  ]
>                   zlib: [ on  ]
>                   lzma: [ on  ]
>              get_cpuid: [ on  ]
>                    bpf: [ on  ]
> 
> We can check some CFLAGS like "#ifdef HAVE_XXX" in perf code to determine if
> some libraries are compiled in.
> 
> For example,
> 
> #ifdef HAVE_LIBNUMA_SUPPORT
> 	printf("libnuma: [ on  ]");
> #endif
> 
> For some features, such as "numa_num_possible_cpus", which doesn't have
> CFLAGS variables. Maybe we can ignore them in report?
> 
> I'd like to upgrade my patch to support perf -vv.

Please go ahead! :-) We're all on the same page now, I think.

- Arnaldo

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