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Message-ID: <1309108266.1183.1522165243976.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>
Date:   Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:40:43 -0400 (EDT)
From:   Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
To:     joel opensrc <joel.opensrc@...il.com>
Cc:     rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] tracepoint: Provide tracepoint_kernel_find_by_name

----- On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:28 AM, joel opensrc joel.opensrc@...il.com wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:27 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>>>> +static void find_tp(struct tracepoint *tp, void *priv)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       struct tp_find_args *args = priv;
>>>> +
>>>> +       if (!strcmp(tp->name, args->name)) {
>>>> +               WARN_ON_ONCE(args->tp);
>>>> +               args->tp = tp;
>>>
>>> I think this runtime check is not needed if it really can't happen
>>> (linker verifies that already as you mentioned) although I'm not
>>> opposed if you still want to keep it, because there's no way to break
>>> out of the outer loop anyway so I guess your call..
>>
>> We can change the outer loop and break from it if needed, that's not
>> an issue.
>>
>>> I would just do:
>>>
>>> if (args->tp)
>>>    return;
>>>
>>> if find_tp already found the tracepoint.
>>>
>>> Tried to also create a duplicate tracepoint and I get:
>>>  CC      init/version.o
>>>  AR      init/built-in.o
>>>  AR      built-in.o
>>>  LD      vmlinux.o
>>> block/blk-core.o:(__tracepoints+0x440): multiple definition of
>>> `__tracepoint_sched_switch'
>>> kernel/sched/core.o:(__tracepoints+0x440): first defined here
>>> Makefile:1032: recipe for target 'vmlinux' failed
>>> make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
>>
>> Yeah, as I state in my changelog, I'm very well aware that the linker
>> is able to catch those. This was the purpose of emitting a
>> __tracepoint_##name symbol in the tracepoint definition macro. This
>> WARN_ON_ONCE() is a redundant check for an invariant that we expect
>> is provided by the linker. Given that it's not a fast path, I would
>> prefer to keep this redundant check in place, given that an average
>> factor 2 speedup on a slow path should really not be something we
>> need to optimize for. IMHO, for slow paths, robustness is more important
>> than speed (unless the slow path becomes so slow that it really affects
>> the user).
>>
>> I envision that a way to break this invariant would be to compile a
>> kernel object with gcc -fvisibility=hidden or such. I admit this is
>> particular scenario is really far fetched, but it illustrates why I
>> prefer to keep an extra safety net at runtime for linker-based
>> validations when possible.
>>
>> If a faster tracepoint lookup function is needed, we should consider
>> perfect hashing algorithms done post-build, but so far nobody has
>> complained about speed of this lookup operation. Anyhow a factor 2 in
>> the speed of this lookup should really not matter, right ?
> 
> Yes, I agree with all the great reasons. So lets do it your way then.

Alexei proposed an alternative patch. I don't strongly mind one approach
or the other.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> thanks,
> 
> - Joel

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

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