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Message-ID: <CAKTCnzmhGqLZG+WVf+8MS4wYeY8PkiGS0G5NpCStGd4mi=w5pA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:15:53 +1100
From:   Balbir Singh <bsingharora@...il.com>
To:     Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>
Cc:     Ram Pai <linuxram@...ibm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "open list:LINUX FOR POWERPC (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" 
        <linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org>, linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        "maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" <x86@...nel.org>,
        linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
        Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
        Anshuman Khandual <khandual@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Aneesh Kumar KV <aneesh.kumar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        "Haren Myneni/Beaverton/IBM" <hbabu@...ibm.com>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
        Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, fweimer@...hat.com,
        msuchanek@...e.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ulrich.Weigand@...ibm.com, Ram Pai <ram.n.pai@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] mm, pkey: treat pkey-0 special

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au> wrote:
> Ram Pai <linuxram@...ibm.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 10:02:22PM +1100, Balbir Singh wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:33 PM, Ram Pai <linuxram@...ibm.com> wrote:
>>> > Applications need the ability to associate an address-range with some
>>> > key and latter revert to its initial default key. Pkey-0 comes close to
>>> > providing this function but falls short, because the current
>>> > implementation disallows applications to explicitly associate pkey-0 to
>>> > the address range.
>>> >
>>> > Clarify the semantics of pkey-0 and provide the corresponding
>>> > implementation.
>>> >
>>> > Pkey-0 is special with the following semantics.
>>> > (a) it is implicitly allocated and can never be freed. It always exists.
>>> > (b) it is the default key assigned to any address-range.
>>> > (c) it can be explicitly associated with any address-range.
>>> >
>>> > Tested on powerpc only. Could not test on x86.
>>>
>>> Ram,
>>>
>>> I was wondering if we should check the AMOR values on the ppc side to make sure
>>> that pkey0 is indeed available for use as default. I am still of the
>>> opinion that we
>>
>> AMOR cannot be read/written by the OS in priviledge-non-hypervisor-mode.
>> We could try testing if key-0 is available to the OS by temproarily
>> changing the bits key-0 bits of AMR or IAMR register. But will be
>> dangeorous to do, for you might disable read,execute of all the pages,
>> since all pages are asscoiated with key-0 bydefault.
>
> No we should do what firmware tells us. If it says key 0 is available we
> use it, otherwise we don't.
>
> Now if you notice the way the firmware API (device tree property) is
> defined, it tells us how many keys are available, counting from 0.
>

I could not find counting from 0 anywhere, are we expected to look
at the AMOR and figure out what we have access to? Why do we
assume they'll be contiguous, it makes our life easy, but I really
could not find any documentation on it

> So for pkey 0 to be reserved there must be 0 keys available.
>
> End of story.
>
> cheers

Cheers,
Balbir Singh.

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