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Date:   Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:19:33 +0200
From:   gregkh <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:     Laurentiu Tudor <laurentiu.tudor@....com>
Cc:     Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>, Stuart Yoder <stuyoder@...il.com>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Ioana Ciornei <ioana.ciornei@....com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Ruxandra Ioana Ciocoi Radulescu <ruxandra.radulescu@....com>,
        Razvan Stefanescu <razvan.stefanescu@....com>,
        Roy Pledge <roy.pledge@....com>,
        Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] bus: fsl-mc: add restool userspace support

On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 02:09:47PM +0000, Laurentiu Tudor wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> 
> On 04/05/2018 03:30 PM, gregkh wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 10:30:01AM +0000, Laurentiu Tudor wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> My 2c below.
> >>
> >> On 04/04/2018 03:42 PM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> >>>> I hear you.  It is more complicated this way...having all these individual
> >>>> objects vs just a single "bundle" of them that represents a NIC.  But, that's
> >>>> the way the DPAA2 hardware is, and we're implementing kernel support for
> >>>> the hardware as it is.
> >>>
> >>> Hi Stuart
> >>>
> >>> I see we are not making any progress here.
> >>>
> >>> So what i suggest is you post the kernel code and configuration tool
> >>> concept to netdev for a full review. You want reviews from David
> >>> Miller, Jiri Pirko, Jakub Kicinski, David Ahern, etc.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I think that the discussion steered too much towards networking related
> >> topics, while this ioctl doesn't have much to do with networking.
> >> It's just an ioctl for our mc-bus bus driver that is used to manage the
> >> devices on this bus through userspace tools.
> >> In addition, I'd drop any mention of our reference user space app
> >> (restool) to emphasize that this ioctl is not added just for a
> >> particular user space app. I think Stuart also mentioned this.
> >
> > I'm not going to take a "generic device configuration ioctl" patch
> > unless it is documented to all exactly what it does, and why it is
> > there.
> 
> The ioctl() is just a simple pass-through interface to the firmware.

Ah, so a new syscall?  :)

> It passes commands to the firmware and returns the response back to the 
> userspace. Thus the ABI used by the firmware applies for this ioctl() 
> and it is documented in detail here:
> 
> https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/DPAA2_UM.pdf

Let's wait on this until people all agree that it's ok to expose this
directly.

thanks,

greg k-h

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