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Message-ID: <c3e05a4aad4895046401519dc83fa623@codeaurora.org>
Date:   Tue, 10 Apr 2018 22:49:16 +0800
From:   yuankuiz@...eaurora.org
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-pm-owner@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] time: tick-sched: use bool for tick_stopped

Typo...

On 2018-04-10 10:08 PM, yuankuiz@...eaurora.org wrote:
> On 2018-04-10 07:06 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, yuankuiz@...eaurora.org wrote:
>>> On 2018-04-10 05:10 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, yuankuiz@...eaurora.org wrote:
>>> > > On 2018-04-10 04:00 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:33 AM,  <yuankuiz@...eaurora.org> wrote:
>>> > > > > From: John Zhao <yuankuiz@...eaurora.org>
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Variable tick_stopped returned by tick_nohz_tick_stopped
>>> > > > > can have only true / false values. Since the return type
>>> > > > > of the tick_nohz_tick_stopped is also bool, variable
>>> > > > > tick_stopped nice to have data type as bool in place of unsigned int.
>>> > > > > Moreover, the executed instructions cost could be minimal
>>> > > > > without potiential data type conversion.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Signed-off-by: John Zhao <yuankuiz@...eaurora.org>
>>> > > > > ---
>>> > > > >  kernel/time/tick-sched.h | 2 +-
>>> > > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > diff --git a/kernel/time/tick-sched.h b/kernel/time/tick-sched.h
>>> > > > > index 6de959a..4d34309 100644
>>> > > > > --- a/kernel/time/tick-sched.h
>>> > > > > +++ b/kernel/time/tick-sched.h
>>> > > > > @@ -48,8 +48,8 @@ struct tick_sched {
>>> > > > >         unsigned long                   check_clocks;
>>> > > > >         enum tick_nohz_mode             nohz_mode;
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > +       bool                            tick_stopped    : 1;
>>> > > > >         unsigned int                    inidle          : 1;
>>> > > > > -       unsigned int                    tick_stopped    : 1;
>>> > > > >         unsigned int                    idle_active     : 1;
>>> > > > >         unsigned int                    do_timer_last   : 1;
>>> > > > >         unsigned int                    got_idle_tick   : 1;
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I don't think this is a good idea at all.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Please see https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/11/21/384 for example.
>>> > > [ZJ] Thanks for this sharing. Looks like, this patch fall into the case of
>>> > > "Maybe".
>>> >
>>> > This patch falls into the case 'pointless' because it adds extra storage
>>> [ZJ] 1 bit vs 1 bit. no more.
>> 
>> Groan. No. Care to look at the data structure? You create a new 
>> storage,
> [ZJ] Say, {unsigned int, unsigned int, unsigned int, unsigned int,
> unsigned int} becomes
>           {bool        , unsigned int, unsigned int, unsigned int, 
> unsigned int}
> As specified by the rule No.10 at the section 6.7.2.1 of C99 TC2 as:
> "If enough space remains, a bit-field that immediately follows another
> bit-field in a
> structure shall be packed into adjacent bits of the same unit." What
> is the new storage so far?
> 
>> which is incidentally merged into the other bitfield by the compiler 
>> at a
>> different bit position, but there is no guarantee that a compiler does
>> that. It's free to use distinct storage for that bool based bit.
> [ZJ] Per the rule No.10 at section 6.7.2.1 of C99 TC2 as:
> " If insufficient space remains, whether  a  bit-field  that  does
> not  fit  is  put  into
> the  next  unit  or overlaps  adjacent  units  is 
> implementation-defined."
> So, implementation is never mind which type will be stored if any.
> 
>> >> > for no benefit at all.
>>> [ZJ] tick_stopped is returned by the tick_nohz_tick_stopped() which 
>>> is bool.
>>> The benefit is no any potiential type conversion could be minded.
>> 
>> A bit stays a bit. 'bool foo : 1;' or 'unsigned int foo : 1' has to be
>> evaluated as a bit. So there is a type conversion from BIT to bool 
>> required
>> because BIT != bool.
> [ZJ] Per the rule No.9 at section 6.7.2.1 of C99 TC2 as:
> "If  the  value  0  or  1  is  stored  into  a  nonzero-width
> bit-field  of  types
> _Bool, the value of the bit-field shall compare equal to the value 
> stored."
> Obviously, it is nothing related to type conversion actually.
>> 
>> By chance the evaluation can be done by evaluating the byte in which 
>> the
>> bit is placed just because the compiler knows that the remaining bits 
>> are
>> not used. There is no guarantee that this is done, it happens to be 
>> true
>> for a particular compiler.
> [ZJ] Actually, such as GCC owe that kind of guarantee to be promised by 
> ABI.
>> 
>> But that does not make it any more interesting. It just makes the code
>> harder to read and eventually leads to bigger storage.
> [ZJ] To get the benctifit to be profiled, it is given as:
> number of instructions of function tick_nohz_tick_stopped():
[ZJ] Here, I used is not the tick_nohz_tick_stopped(), but an 
evaluation() as:
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdbool.h>

struct tick_sched {
         unsigned int inidle             : 1;
         unsigned int tick_stopped       : 1;
};

bool get_status()
{
         struct tick_sched *ts;
         ts->tick_stopped = 1;
         return ts->tick_stopped;
}

int main()
{
         if (get_status()) return 0;
         return 0;
}

[ZJ] Toggle the declaration of tick_stopped in side of the tick_sched 
structure for comparison.


>                         original: 17
>                         patched:  14
>      Which was saved is:
>                movzbl	%al, %eax
>                testl	%eax, %eax
>                setne    %al
>      Say, 3 / 17 = 17 % could be gained in the instruction executed
> for this function can be evaluated.
> 
> Note:
>      The environment I used is:
>                OS : Ubuntu Desktop 16.04 LTS
>                gcc: 6.3.0                       (without optimization
> for in general purpose)
> 
>> 

Just FYI.

Thanks,
ZJ

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