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Date:   Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:02:53 +0200
From:   Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
To:     Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@...gutronix.de>
Cc:     Sinan Kaya <okaya@...eaurora.org>,
        Auger Eric <eric.auger@...hat.com>,
        Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@...der.be>,
        Baptiste Reynal <b.reynal@...tualopensystems.com>,
        Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        KVM list <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
        <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] vfio: platform: Add generic DT reset support

Hi Philipp,

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@...gutronix.de> wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-04-12 at 15:12 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 2:36 PM, Sinan Kaya <okaya@...eaurora.org> wrote:
>> > On 4/12/2018 7:49 AM, Auger Eric wrote:
>> > > On 12/04/18 13:32, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Auger Eric <eric.auger@...hat.com> wrote:
>> > > > > On 11/04/18 11:15, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> > > > > > Vfio-platform requires reset support, provided either by ACPI, or, on DT
>> > > > > > platforms, by a device-specific reset driver matching against the
>> > > > > > device's compatible value.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On many SoCs, devices are connected to an SoC-internal reset controller.
>> > > > > > If the reset hierarchy is described in DT using "resets" properties,
>> > > > > > such devices can be reset in a generic way through the reset controller
>> > > > > > subsystem.  Hence add support for this, avoiding the need to write
>> > > > > > device-specific reset drivers for each single device on affected SoCs.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Devices that do require a more complex reset procedure can still provide
>> > > > > > a device-specific reset driver, as that takes precedence.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Note that this functionality depends on CONFIG_RESET_CONTROLLER=y, and
>> > > > > > becomes a no-op (as in: "No reset function found for device") if reset
>> > > > > > controller support is disabled.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@...der.be>
>> > > > > > Reviewed-by: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@...gutronix.de>
>> > > > > > --- a/drivers/vfio/platform/vfio_platform_common.c
>> > > > > > +++ b/drivers/vfio/platform/vfio_platform_common.c
>> > > > > > @@ -127,8 +130,16 @@ static int vfio_platform_get_reset(struct vfio_platform_device *vdev)
>> > > > > >               vdev->of_reset = vfio_platform_lookup_reset(vdev->compat,
>> > > > > >                                                       &vdev->reset_module);
>> > > > > >       }
>> > > > > > +     if (vdev->of_reset)
>> > > > > > +             return 0;
>> > > > > > +
>> > > > > > +     rstc = of_reset_control_get_exclusive(vdev->device->of_node, NULL);
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Shouldn't we prefer the top level reset_control_get_exclusive()?
>> > > >
>> > > > I guess that should work, too.
>> > > >
>> > > > > To make sure about the exclusive/shared terminology, does
>> > > > > get_reset_control_get_exclusive() check we have an exclusive wire
>> > > > > between this device and the reset controller?
>> > > >
>> > > > AFAIU, the "exclusive" means that only a single user can obtain access to
>> > > > the reset, and it does not guarantee that we have an exclusive wire between
>> > > > the device and the reset controller.
>> > > >
>> > > > The latter depends on the SoC's reset topology. If a reset wire is shared
>> > > > by multiple devices (e.g. resets shared by PWM or Display Unit devices on
>> > > > R-Car SoCs), exporting a subset of these devices to a guest is a bad idea,
>> > > > indeed.
>> > >
>> > > So who's going to check this assigned device will not trigger a reset of
>> > > other non assigned devices sharing the same reset controller?
>
> If the reset control is requested as exclusive, any other driver
> requesting the same reset control will fail (or this reset_control_get
> will fail, whichever comes last).
>
>> > I like the direction in general. I was hoping that you'd call it of_reset_control
>> > rather than reset_control.
>>
>> You mean vfio_platform_device.of_reset_control?
>> If we switch to reset_control_get_exclusive(), that doesn't make much sense...
>>
>> > Is there anything in the OF spec about what to expect from DT's reset?
>>
>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/reset/reset.txt says:
>>
>> "A word on where to place reset signal consumers in device tree: It is possible
>>  in hardware for a reset signal to affect multiple logically separate HW blocks
>>  at once. In this case, it would be unwise to represent this reset signal in
>>  the DT node of each affected HW block, since if activated, an unrelated block
>>  may be reset. Instead, reset signals should be represented in the DT node
>>  where it makes most sense to control it; this may be a bus node if all
>>  children of the bus are affected by the reset signal, or an individual HW
>>  block node for dedicated reset signals. The intent of this binding is to give
>>  appropriate software access to the reset signals in order to manage the HW,
>>  rather than to slavishly enumerate the reset signal that affects each HW
>>  block."
>
> This was written in 2012, and unfortunately the DT binding documentation
> does not inform hardware development, and has not been updated since.
>
> There's generally two kinds of reset uses:
> - either to bring a device into a known state at a given point in time,
>   which is often done using a timed assert/deassert sequence,
> - or just to park a device while not in active use (must deassert any
>   time before use, may or may not assert any time after use)
>
> For the former case, the above paragraph makes a lot of sense, because
> when it is necessary to reset a device that shares the reset line with
> another, either choice between disturbing the other device, or not
> being able to reset when necessary, is a bad one. The reset controller
> framework supports those use cases via the reset_control_get_exclusive
> function variants.
>
> But for the latter case, there is absolutely no need to forbid sharing
> reset lines among multiple devices, as deassertion/assertion can just be
> handled reference counted, like clocks or power management. The reset
> controller framework supports those use cases via the
> reset_control_get_shared function variants.
>
> The case we are talking about here is the first one.

Except that vfio-platform wants to reset the device before and after its
use by the guest, for isolation reasons, which does cause a major
disturbance in case of a shared reset.

>> So according to the bindings, a specific reset should apply to a single
>> device only.
>
> Indeed sharing reset lines between peripherals has become unexpectedly
> common, making it impractical to forbid shared resets in the device
> tree.
>
>> A quick check shows there are several violators:

[...]

>> Perhaps we should start grouping devices sharing a reset signal in a
>> "simple-bus" node?
>>
>> Phillip: any comments?
>
> For some of those it may be possible, but that is basically just a work-
> around for reality not matching expectations. There may be other cases
> where devices sharing a reset line are not even in the same parent node
> because they are controlled via a different bus. In general, I don't
> think it is feasible or desirable to force grouping of devices that
> share the same reset line into a common parent node.

At least for Renesas R-Car SoCs, I think this is feasible, as all affected
devices are currently grouped under the same /soc node.
I added subnodes for all devices sharing resets (one for pwm, 4 for USB2,
and one for USB3; display doesn't have resets yet), and it still boots ;-)

However, ehci_platform_probe() cannot get its (optional) resets anymore.
Probably the reset controller framework needs to be taught to look for
shared resets in the parent node, too?

> My suggestion would be to relax the language in the reset.txt DT
> bindings doc.

Which is fine to keep the status quo with the hardware designers, but makes
it less likely for non-whitelisted generic reset controller support to
become acceptable for the vfio people...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

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