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Date:   Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:35:10 -0400
From:   Steven Rostedt <>
To:     Sasha Levin <>
Cc:     Pavel Machek <>,
        Linus Torvalds <>,
        Petr Mladek <>,
        "" <>,
        "" <>,
        "" <>,
        "" <>,
        Cong Wang <>,
        Dave Hansen <>,
        Johannes Weiner <>,
        Mel Gorman <>, Michal Hocko <>,
        Vlastimil Babka <>,
        Peter Zijlstra <>, Jan Kara <>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <>,
        Tetsuo Handa <>,
        Byungchul Park <>,
        Tejun Heo <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and
 waiter logic to load balance console writes

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:17:17 +0000
Sasha Levin <> wrote:

> I thought we agreed that this is bad? We wanted users to be closer to
> mainline, and we can't do it without bringing -stable closer to mainline
> as well.

I guess the question comes down to, what do the users of stable kernels
want? For my machines, I always stay one or two releases behind
mainline. Right now my kernels are on 4.15.x, and will probably jump to
4.16.x the next time I upgrade my machines. I'm fine with something
breaking every so often as long as it's not data corruption (although I
have lots of backups of my systems in case that happens, just a PITA to
fix it). I only hit bugs on these boxes probably once a year at most in
doing so. But I mostly do what other kernel developers do and that
means the bugs I would mostly hit, other developers hit before their
code is released.

Thus, if stable users are fine with being regression compatible with
mainline, then I'm fine with it too.

-- Steve

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