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Message-ID: <1523982346.7093.4.camel@gmx.de>
Date:   Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:25:46 +0200
From:   Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:     Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>,
        Sasha Levin <Alexander.Levin@...rosoft.com>
Cc:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
        Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>,
        "stable@...r.kernel.org" <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.sakura.ne.jp>,
        Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@....com>,
        Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and
 waiter logic to load balance console writes

On Tue, 2018-04-17 at 17:52 +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Sasha Levin wrote:
> 
> > How do I get the XFS folks to send their stuff to -stable? (we have
> > quite a few customers who use XFS)
> 
> If XFS (or *any* other subsystem) doesn't have enough manpower of upstream 
> maintainers to deal with stable, we just have to accept that and find an 
> answer to that.
> 
> If XFS folks claim that they don't have enough mental capacity to 
> create/verify XFS backports, I totally don't see how any kind of AI would 
> have.
> 
> If your business relies on XFS (and so does ours, BTW) or any other 
> subsystem that doesn't have enough manpower to care for stable, the proper 
> solution (and contribution) would be just bringing more people into the 
> XFS community.
> 
> To put it simply -- I don't think the simple lack of actual human 
> brainpower can be reasonably resolved in other way than bringing more of 
> it in.

Not to worry... soon enough it'll be submitting properly massaged
backports of the stuff it submitted upstream :)

	-Mike

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