linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5 0/2] printk: Console owner and waiter logic cleanup

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Message-ID: <20180423053531.GB3643@jagdpanzerIV>
Date:   Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:35:31 +0900
From:   Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@...il.com>
To:     Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:     Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@...il.com>,
        Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@...il.com>,
        Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
        rostedt@...e.goodmis.org, Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@....com>,
        Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/2] printk: Console owner and waiter logic cleanup

On (01/23/18 07:43), Tejun Heo wrote:
> > 
> > We can have more. But if printk is causing printks, that's a major bug.
> > And work queues are not going to fix it, it will just spread out the
> > pain. Have it be 100 printks, it needs to be fixed if it is happening.
> > And having all printks just generate more printks is not helpful. Even
> > if we slow them down. They will still never end.
> 
> So, at least in the case that we were seeing, it isn't that black and
> white.  printk keeps causing printks but only because printk buffer
> flushing is preventing the printk'ing context from making forward
> progress.  The key problem there is that a flushing context may get
> pinned flushing indefinitely and using a separate context does solve
> the problem.

Hello Tejun,

I'm willing to take a look at those printk()-s from console drivers.
Any chance you can send me some of the backtraces you see [the most
common/disturbing]?

	-ss