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Message-ID: <1953337577.5844.1524843821731.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>
Date:   Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:43:41 -0400 (EDT)
From:   Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
To:     rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:     "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joelaf@...gle.com>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@...ux.intel.com>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
        fweisbec <fweisbec@...il.com>,
        Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
        kbuild test robot <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
        baohong liu <baohong.liu@...el.com>,
        vedang patel <vedang.patel@...el.com>,
        kernel-team <kernel-team@...roid.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] tracepoint: Introduce tracepoint callbacks
 executing with preempt on

----- On Apr 27, 2018, at 11:40 AM, rostedt rostedt@...dmis.org wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 08:38:26 -0700
> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:47:47AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:26:29 -0400 (EDT)
>> > Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com> wrote:
>> >   
>> > > The general approach and the implementation look fine, except for
>> > > one small detail: I would be tempted to explicitly disable preemption
>> > > around the call to the tracepoint callback for the rcuidle variant,
>> > > unless we plan to audit every tracer right away to remove any assumption
>> > > that preemption is disabled in the callback implementation.
>> > 
>> > I'm thinking that we do that audit. There shouldn't be many instances
>> > of it. I like the idea that a tracepoint callback gets called with
>> > preemption enabled.
>> 
>> Are you really sure you want to increase your state space that much?
> 
> Why not? The code I have in callbacks already deals with all sorts of
> context - normal, softirq, irq, NMI, preemption disabled, irq
> disabled.

It does so by disabling preemption in the callbacks, even when it's
redundant with the guarantees already provided by tracepoint-sched-rcu
and by kprobes. It's not that great for a fast-path.

Thanks,

Mathieu


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

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