linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v4 04/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Clear ACS P2P flags for all devices behind switches

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Date:   Tue, 8 May 2018 16:32:06 -0600
From:   Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>
To:     Logan Gunthorpe <logang@...tatee.com>
Cc:     Stephen Bates <sbates@...thlin.com>,
        Christian König <christian.koenig@....com>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-pci@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org>,
        "linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-nvdimm@...ts.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@...ts.01.org>,
        "linux-block@...r.kernel.org" <linux-block@...r.kernel.org>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
        Keith Busch <keith.busch@...el.com>,
        Sagi Grimberg <sagi@...mberg.me>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...lanox.com>,
        Max Gurtovoy <maxg@...lanox.com>,
        Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>,
        Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Clear ACS P2P flags for all
 devices behind switches

On Tue, 8 May 2018 16:10:19 -0600
Logan Gunthorpe <logang@...tatee.com> wrote:

> On 08/05/18 04:03 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > If IOMMU grouping implies device assignment (because nobody else uses
> > it to the same extent as device assignment) then the build-time option
> > falls to pieces, we need a single kernel that can do both.  I think we
> > need to get more clever about allowing the user to specify exactly at
> > which points in the topology they want to disable isolation.  Thanks,  
> 
> 
> Yeah, so based on the discussion I'm leaning toward just having a
> command line option that takes a list of BDFs and disables ACS for them.
> (Essentially as Dan has suggested.) This avoids the shotgun.
> 
> Then, the pci_p2pdma_distance command needs to check that ACS is
> disabled for all bridges between the two devices. If this is not the
> case, it returns -1. Future work can check if the EP has ATS support, in
> which case it has to check for the ACS direct translated bit.
> 
> A user then needs to either disable the IOMMU and/or add the command
> line option to disable ACS for the specific downstream ports in the PCI
> hierarchy. This means the IOMMU groups will be less granular but
> presumably the person adding the command line argument understands this.
> 
> We may also want to do some work so that there's informative dmesgs on
> which BDFs need to be specified on the command line so it's not so
> difficult for the user to figure out.

I'd advise caution with a user supplied BDF approach, we have no
guaranteed persistence for a device's PCI address.  Adding a device
might renumber the buses, replacing a device with one that consumes
more/less bus numbers can renumber the buses, motherboard firmware
updates could renumber the buses, pci=assign-buses can renumber the
buses, etc.  This is why the VT-d spec makes use of device paths when
describing PCI hierarchies, firmware can't know what bus number will be
assigned to a device, but it does know the base bus number and the path
of devfns needed to get to it.  I don't know how we come up with an
option that's easy enough for a user to understand, but reasonably
robust against hardware changes.  Thanks,

Alex