linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] mm: expland documentation over __read

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Message-ID: <e2aa9491-c1e3-4ae1-1ab2-589a6642a24a@infradead.org>
Date:   Mon, 7 May 2018 17:20:09 -0700
From:   Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>
To:     "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...nel.org>, tglx@...utronix.de,
        arnd@...db.de, cl@...ux.com
Cc:     keescook@...omium.org, luto@...capital.net, longman@...hat.com,
        viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, willy@...radead.org,
        ebiederm@...ssion.com, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: expland documentation over __read_mostly

On 05/07/2018 04:15 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> __read_mostly can easily be misused by folks, its not meant for
> just read-only data. There are performance reasons for using it, but
> we also don't provide any guidance about its use. Provide a bit more
> guidance over it use.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@...nel.org>
> ---
>  include/linux/cache.h | 10 ++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> Every now and then we get a patch suggesting to use __read_mostly for
> something new or old but with no justifications. Add a bit more
> verbiage to help guide its users.
> 
> Is this sufficient documentation to at least ask for a reason in the commit
> log as to why its being used for new entries? Or should we be explicit and
> ask for such justifications in commit logs? Taken from prior discussions
> with Christoph Lameter [0] over its use.
> 
> [0] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.11.1504301343190.28879@gentwo.org
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/cache.h b/include/linux/cache.h
> index 750621e41d1c..62bc5adc0ed5 100644
> --- a/include/linux/cache.h
> +++ b/include/linux/cache.h
> @@ -15,8 +15,14 @@
>  
>  /*
>   * __read_mostly is used to keep rarely changing variables out of frequently
> - * updated cachelines. If an architecture doesn't support it, ignore the
> - * hint.
> + * updated cachelines. Its use should be reserved for data that is used
> + * frequently in hot paths. Performance traces can help decide when to use
> + * this. You want __read_mostly data to be tightly packed, so that in the
> + * best case multiple frequently read variables for a hot path will be next
> + * to each other in order to reduce the number of cachelines needed to
> + * execute a critial path. We should be mindful and selective if its use.

                                                                 of its use.

> + *
> + * If an architecture doesn't support it, ignore the hint.
>   */
>  #ifndef __read_mostly
>  #define __read_mostly
> 

-- 
~Randy