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Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 14:08:03 +0200
From: Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@...e.com>,
Andrew Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86-64/Xen: fix stack switching
On 14/05/18 12:28, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 08.05.18 at 04:38, <luto@...nel.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:16 AM Jan Beulich <JBeulich@...e.com> wrote:
>>
>>> While on native entry into the kernel happens on the trampoline stack,
>>> PV Xen kernels are being entered with the current thread stack right
>>> away. Hence source and destination stacks are identical in that case,
>>> and special care is needed.
>>
>>> Other than in sync_regs() the copying done on the INT80 path as well as
>>> on the NMI path itself isn't NMI / #MC safe, as either of these events
>>> occurring in the middle of the stack copying would clobber data on the
>>> (source) stack. (Of course, in the NMI case only #MC could break
>>> things.)
>>
>> I think I'd rather fix this by changing the stack switch code or
>
> Well, isn't that what I'm doing in the patch?
>
>> alternativing around it on non-stack-switching kernels.
>
> Fine with me if that's considered better than adding the conditionals.
>
>> Or make Xen use a trampoline stack just like native.
>
> Well, as said I'd rather not, unless x86 and Xen maintainers agree
> that's the way to go. But see below for NMI.
I'd prefer not using a trampoline stack, too.
>
>>> I'm not altering the similar code in interrupt_entry(), as that code
>>> path is unreachable when running an PV Xen guest afaict.
>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@...e.com>
>>> Cc: stable@...nel.org
>>> ---
>>> There would certainly have been the option of using alternatives
>>> patching, but afaict the patching code isn't NMI / #MC safe, so I'd
>>> rather stay away from patching the NMI path. And I thought it would be
>>> better to use similar code in both cases.
>>
>> I would hope we do the patching before we enable any NMIs.
>
> "Enable NMIs"? I don't think they're getting disabled anywhere in the
> kernel. Perhaps you merely mean ones the kernel sends itself (which
> I agree would hopefully only be enabled after alternatives patching?
>
>>> Another option would be to make the Xen case match the native one, by
>>> going through the trampoline stack, but to me this would look like extra
>>> overhead for no gain.
>>
>> Avoiding even more complexity in the nmi code seems like a big gain to me.
>
> I'm not sure the added conditional is more complexity than making Xen
> switch to the trampoline stack just to switch back almost immediately.
I agree.
> But yes, I could see complexity of the NMI code to be a reason to use
> different solutions on the NMI and INT80 paths. It's just that I'd like
> you, the x86 maintainters, and the Xen ones to agree on which solution
> to use where before I'd send a v2.
With my Xen maintainer hat on I'd prefer Jan's current solution.
Juergen
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