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Message-ID: <20180515120355.GE31599@bombadil.infradead.org>
Date:   Tue, 15 May 2018 05:03:55 -0700
From:   Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
To:     Boaz Harrosh <boazh@...app.com>
Cc:     Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@...hat.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, x86@...nel.org,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
        Matthew Wilcox <mawilcox@...rosoft.com>,
        Amit Golander <Amit.Golander@...app.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Add new vma flag VM_LOCAL_CPU

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 02:41:41PM +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> That would be very hard. Because that program would:
> - need to be root
> - need to start and pretend it is zus Server with the all mount
>   thread thing, register new filesystem, grab some pmem devices.
> - Mount the said filesystem on said pmem. Create core-pinned ZT threads
>   for all CPUs, start accepting IO.
> - And only then it can start leaking the pointer and do bad things.

All of these things you've done for me by writing zus Server.  All I
have to do now is compromise zus Server.

>   The bad things it can do to the application, not to the Kernel.
>   And as a full filesystem it can do those bad things to the application
>   through the front door directly not needing the mismatch tlb at all.

That's not true.  When I have a TLB entry that points to a page of kernel
ram, I can do almost anything, depending on what the kernel decides to
do with that ram next.  Maybe it's page cache again, in which case I can
affect whatever application happens to get it allocated.  Maybe it's a
kmalloc page next, in which case I can affect any part of the kernel.
Maybe it's a page table, then I can affect any process.

> That said. It brings up a very important point that I wanted to talk about.
> In this design the zuf(Kernel) and the zus(um Server) are part of the distribution.
> I would like to have the zus module be signed by the distro's Kernel's key and
> checked on loadtime. I know there is an effort by Redhat guys to try and sign all
> /sbin/* servers and have Kernel check these. So this is not the first time people
> have thought about that.

You're getting dangerously close to admitting that the entire point
of this exercise is so that you can link non-GPL NetApp code into the
kernel in clear violation of the GPL.

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