linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] cpuset: Enforce that a child's cpus must be a subset of the parent

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Message-ID: <9f4ac270-9c56-d616-445d-7021210893f3@redhat.com>
Date:   Thu, 31 May 2018 12:28:45 -0400
From:   Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>
To:     Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:     Zefan Li <lizefan@...wei.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, cgroups@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
        kernel-team@...com, pjt@...gle.com, luto@...capital.net,
        Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
        Roman Gushchin <guro@...com>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpuset: Enforce that a child's cpus must be a subset of
 the parent

On 05/31/2018 11:58 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 09:22:23AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>>>>> As the intersection of g11's cpus and that of g1 is empty, the effective
>>>>>>> cpus of g11 is just that of g1. The check in update_cpumask() is now
>>>>>>> corrected to make sure that cpus in a child cpus must be a subset of
>>>>>>> its parent's cpus. The error "write error: Invalid argument" will now
>>>>>>> be reported in the above case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> We made the distinction between user-configured CPUs and effective CPUs
>>>>>> in commit 7e88291beefbb758, so actually it's not a bug.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I remember the original reason is to support restoration of the original
>>>>> cpu after cpu offline->online. We use user-configured CPUs to remember
>>>>> if the cpu should be restored in the cpuset after it's onlined.
>>>> AFAICT you can do that and still have the child a subset of the parent,
>>>> no?
>>>> .
>>> Sure. IIRC this was suggested by Tejun as he had done something similar to devcgroup.
>>>
>> OK, let wait until Tejun has time to chime in. For me, it just look
>> weird to be able to do that.
>>
>> Another corner case that is not handled is when cpus_allowed is empty.
>> In this case, it falls back to the parent's effective cpus. On the other
>> hand, it can also be argued that an empty cpus_allowed is a transient
>> state and a cpuset shouldn't have cpus undefined while creating children.
> Tying together what's configured and what's applied may feel
> attractive on the surface but it's a long term headache.
>
> * It's inconsistent with what other controllers are doing.  All the
>   limit resource configs declare the upper bound the specific cgroup
>   can consume regardless of what's actually available to it.  They
>   limit but don't guarantee access.
>
> * Which decouples a given cgroup's configurations from its ancestors',
>   which allows an ancestor to take away resources that it granted
>   before and then also giving it back later.  No matter what you do,
>   if you couple configs of cgroup hierarchy, you end up restricting
>   what an ancestor can do to its sub-hierarchy, which can quickly
>   become a difficult operational headache.
>
> So, let's please stay away from it even if that means a bit of
> overhead in terms of interface.
>
> Thanks.
>
I am fine with that argument. I will update the patch documentation to
include this information as I think it is important for the users to be
aware of that.

Cheers,
Longman