linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] ksys_mount: check for permissions before resource allocation

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Message-ID: <20180605115340.GO30522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Date:   Tue, 5 Jun 2018 12:53:40 +0100
From:   Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>
To:     Ilya Matveychikov <matvejchikov@...il.com>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ksys_mount: check for permissions before resource
 allocation

On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 03:35:55PM +0400, Ilya Matveychikov wrote:
> 
> > On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 6:00 AM, Ilya Matveychikov <matvejchikov@...il.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Early check for mount permissions prevents possible allocation of 3
> >>> pages from kmalloc() pool by unpriveledged user which can be used for
> >>> spraying the kernel heap.
> > 
> > I'm sorry, but there are arseloads of unpriveleged syscalls that do the same,
> > starting with read() from procfs files.  So what the hell does it buy?
> 
> Means that if all do the same shit no reason to fix it? Sounds weird...

Fix *what*?  You do realize that there's no permission checks to stop e.g.
stat(2) from copying the pathname in, right?  With user-supplied contents,
even...

If you depend upon preventing kmalloc'ed temporary allocations filled
with user-supplied data, you are screwed, plain and simple.  It really can't
be prevented, in a lot of ways that are much less exotic than mount(2).
Most of syscall arguments are copied in, before we get any permission
checks.  It does happen and it will happen - examining them while they are
still in userland is a nightmare in a lot of respects, starting with
security.