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Date:   Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:20:45 +0200
From:   Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>
To:     Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...deen.net>
Cc:     Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@...il.com>,
        "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@...cle.com>,
        Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
        Brian Foster <bfoster@...hat.com>,
        syzbot <syzbot+568245b88fbaedcb1959@...kaller.appspotmail.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-xfs <linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org>,
        syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@...glegroups.com>
Subject: Re: INFO: task hung in xlog_grant_head_check

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:01 PM, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...deen.net> wrote:
> On 5/23/18 11:20 AM, Eric Biggers wrote:
>
> ...
>
>
> I'd revise that to "have to fix /some/ of them anyway."
>
> What I'm personally hung up on are the bugs where the "exploit" involves
> merely
> mounting a crafted filesystem that in reality would never (until the heat
> death
> of the universe) corrupt itself into that state on its own; it's the
> "malicious
> image" case, which is quite different than exposing fundamental bugs like
> the
> SB_BORN race or or the user-exploitable ext4 flaw you mentioned in your
> reply.
> Those are more insidious and/or things which can be hit by real users in
> real life.
>
> I don't know if I can win the "malicious images aren't a critical security
> threat" battle, but I do think they are at least a different class of flaws,
> because as Dave said, mount is supposed to be a privileged operation.
> In a perfect world we'd fix them anyway, but I don't know that our resource
> pool can keep up with your google-scale bot and still make progress in other
> critical areas.
>
> Anyway, the upshot is that we're probably just not going to care much about
> V4
> filesystem oops-or-hang-on-mount bugs.  Those problems are solved (largely)
> with
> V5 filesystem format.  Maybe I /will/ propose a system-wide tunable to
> disallow
> V4 for those who are worried about such things.
>
> To Darrick's points about more collaboration, I still wish that our requests
> for more traditional fs fuzzer reporting (i.e. a filesystem image) weren't
> met
> with such resistance.Tailoring your bug reports to the needs of the
> developer
> community you're interacting with seems like a pretty reasonable thing to
> do.
>
> As an aside, I wonder how much coverage of the V5 format code syzkaller
> /has/
> achieved; that would be another useful datapoint google could provide - if
> syzkaller is in fact traversing the V5 codepaths and isn't turning anything
> up, that'd be pretty useful to know.

Hi Eric,

The current syzbot kernel code coverage is available here:
https://storage.googleapis.com/syzkaller/cover/upstream.html#9c73bb525fc1def86e67f5039ab97d8f48062621

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