linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 00/10] Control Flow Enforcement

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Message-ID: <1528820489.9324.14.camel@2b52.sc.intel.com>
Date:   Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:21:29 -0700
From:   Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@...el.com>
To:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Cc:     bsingharora@...il.com, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
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        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "H. J. Lu" <hjl.tools@...il.com>,
        "Shanbhogue, Vedvyas" <vedvyas.shanbhogue@...el.com>,
        "Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@...el.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        mike.kravetz@...cle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Control Flow Enforcement - Part (3)

On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 09:00 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 8:06 AM Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@...el.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 20:56 +1000, Balbir Singh wrote:
> > >
> > > On 08/06/18 00:37, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
> > > > This series introduces CET - Shadow stack
> > > >
> > > > At the high level, shadow stack is:
> > > >
> > > >     Allocated from a task's address space with vm_flags VM_SHSTK;
> > > >     Its PTEs must be read-only and dirty;
> > > >     Fixed sized, but the default size can be changed by sys admin.
> > > >
> > > > For a forked child, the shadow stack is duplicated when the next
> > > > shadow stack access takes place.
> > > >
> > > > For a pthread child, a new shadow stack is allocated.
> > > >
> > > > The signal handler uses the same shadow stack as the main program.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Even with sigaltstack()?
> > >
> > >
> > > Balbir Singh.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> 
> I think we're going to need some provision to add an alternate signal
> stack to handle the case where the shadow stack overflows.

The shadow stack stores only return addresses; its consumption will not
exceed a percentage of (program stack size + sigaltstack size) before
those overflow.  When that happens, there is usually very little we can
do.  So we set a default shadow stack size that supports certain nested
calls and allow sys admin to adjust it.