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Date:   Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:53:51 -0500
From:   ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:     Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws>
Cc:     Matthew Helsley <matt.helsley@...il.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
        Akihiro Suda <suda.akihiro@....ntt.co.jp>,
        Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@...onical.com>,
        Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...ntu.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
        "Tobin C . Harding" <me@...in.cc>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] seccomp: add a return code to trap to userspace

Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws> writes:

> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:44:21PM -0700, Matthew Helsley wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws> wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi Matthew,
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 02:39:03PM -0700, Matthew Helsley wrote:
>> > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:49 AM, Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > <snip>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > +struct seccomp_notif {
>> > > > +       __u64 id;
>> > > > +       pid_t pid;
>> > > > +       struct seccomp_data data;
>> > > > +};
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Since it's part of the UAPI I think it would be good to add documentation
>> > > to this patch series. Part of that documentation should talk about which
>> > > pid namespaces this pid value is relevant in. This is especially
>> > important
>> > > since the feature is designed for use by things like container/sandbox
>> > > managers.
>> >
>> > Yes, at least Documentation/userspace-api/seccomp_filter.txt should be
>> > updated. I'll add that for the next series.
>> >
>> 
>> Are there some relevant man pages too that should be updated too?
>
> Yes, but since those are in a separate tree, I usually send the sets
> separately.
>
>> > > > +static void seccomp_do_user_notification(int this_syscall,
>> > > > +                                        struct seccomp_filter *match,
>> > > > +                                        const struct seccomp_data *sd)
>> > > > +{
>> > > > +       int err;
>> > > > +       long ret = 0;
>> > > > +       struct seccomp_knotif n = {};
>> > > > +
>> > > > +       mutex_lock(&match->notify_lock);
>> > > > +       err = -ENOSYS;
>> > > > +       if (!match->has_listener)
>> > > > +               goto out;
>> > > > +
>> > > > +       n.pid = current->pid;
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > How have you tested this code for correctness? I don't see many
>> > > combinations being tested below nor here:
>> > > https://github.com/tych0/kernel-utils/blob/master/
>> > seccomp/notify_stress.c
>> > >
>> > > What about processes in different pid namespaces? Make tests that vary
>> > key
>> > > parameters like these between the task generating the notifications and
>> > the
>> > > task interested in processing the notifications. Make tests that try to
>> > > kill them at interesting times too. etc. Make tests that pass the
>> > > notification fd around and see how they work (or not).
>> > >
>> > > I ask about testing because you're effectively returning a pid value to
>> > > userspace here but not using the proper macros to access the task's
>> > struct
>> > > pid for that purpose. That will work so long as both processes are in the
>> > > same pid namespace but breaks otherwise.
>> > >
>> > > Furthermore, a pid value is not the best solution for the queueing of
>> > these
>> > > notifications because a single pid value is not meaningful/correct
>> > outside
>> > > current's pid namespace and the seccomp notification file descriptor
>> > could
>> > > be passed on to processes in another pid namespaces; this pid value will
>> > > almost always not be relevant or correct there hence taking a reference
>> > to
>> >
>> > Well, it *has* to be relevant in some cases: if you want to access
>> > some of the task's memory to e.g. read the args to the syscall, you
>> > need to ptrace or map_files to access the memory. So we do need to
>> > pass it, but,
>> >
>> > > the struct pid is useful. Then, during read(), the code would use the
>> > > proper macro to turn the struct pid reference into a pid value relevant
>> > in
>> > > the *reader's* pid namespace *or* return something obviously bogus if the
>> > > reader is in a pid namespace that can't see that pid. This could prevent
>> > > management processes from being tricked into clobbering the wrong
>> > process,
>> > > feeding the wrong process sensitive information via syscall results, etc.
>> >
>> > Yes, this makes sense. Seems like we need to do some magic about
>> > passing the tracee's task struct to the listener, so it can do
>> > task_pid_vnr(). We could perhaps require the listener to be in the
>> > init_pid_ns case, but I think things like socket() might still be
>> > useful even if you can't read the tracee's memory.
>> 
>> 
>> You could take a reference to the pid rather than the task
>> then use pid_vnr(). In that case the changes should result in something
>> like:
>> 
>> 
>> struct seccomp_knotif {
>>        /* The pid whose filter triggered the notification */
>>        struct pid *pid;
>> ...
>> 
>> static void seccomp_do_user_notification(...)
>> {
>>     ...
>>     n.pid = get_task_pid(current, PIDTYPE_PID);
>>     ...
>> remove_list:
>>     list_del(&n.list);
>>     put_pid(n.pid);
>>     ...
>> }
>> ...
>> static ssize_t seccomp_notify_read(...)
>> {
>>     ...
>>     unotif.pid = pid_vnr(knotif->pid);
>>     ...
>> }
>> 
>> I like holding the pid reference because it's what we do elsewhere when pid
>> namespaces
>> are a concern and it more precisely specifies what the knotif content needs
>> to convey.
>> Otherwise I don't think it makes a difference.
>
> Great, thanks, I'll do this. I guess we need a put_pid() here too.

A)  We know that the task is stopped.  Unless there is something
    like SIGKILL that can make the task move you don't need to
    take a reference to anything.

B)  pid_vnr is the wrong answer.  When you create the struct file
    and intialize the filter you need to capture the calling processes
    pid namespace.  The you can use "pid_nr_ns(knotif->pid, filter->pid_ns);".
    That will work consistently even if the file descriptor is passed
    between processes.

Eric

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