linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 14/23] watchdog/hardlockup: Decouple the hardlockup detector from perf

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Message-ID: <20180615022309.GF11625@voyager>
Date:   Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:23:09 -0700
From:   Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 14/23] watchdog/hardlockup: Decouple the hardlockup
 detector from perf

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:41:44AM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:19:01 -0700
> Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:43:24AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 05:57:34PM -0700, Ricardo Neri wrote:  
> > > > The current default implementation of the hardlockup detector assumes that
> > > > it is implemented using perf events.  
> > > 
> > > The sparc and powerpc things are very much not using perf.  
> > 
> > Isn't it true that the current hardlockup detector
> > (under kernel/watchdog_hld.c) is based on perf?
> 
> arch/powerpc/kernel/watchdog.c is a powerpc implementation that uses
> the kernel/watchdog_hld.c framework.
> 
> > As far as I understand,
> > this hardlockup detector is constructed using perf events for architectures
> > that don't provide an NMI watchdog. Perhaps I can be more specific and say
> > that this synthetized detector is based on perf.
> 
> The perf detector is like that, but we want NMI watchdogs to share
> the watchdog_hld code as much as possible even for arch specific NMI
> watchdogs, so that kernel and user interfaces and behaviour are
> consistent.
> 
> Other arch watchdogs like sparc are a little older so they are not
> using HLD. You don't have to change those for your series, but it
> would be good to bring them into the fold if possible at some time.
> IIRC sparc was slightly non-trivial because it has some differences
> in sysctl or cmdline APIs that we don't want to break.
> 
> But powerpc at least needs to be updated if you change hld apis.

I will look into updating at least the powerpc implementation as part
of these changes.

Thanks and BR,
Ricardo