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Date:   Fri, 15 Jun 2018 15:56:08 -0600
From:   Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
To:     Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@...com>
Cc:     Nishanth Menon <nm@...com>,
        Santosh Shilimkar <ssantosh@...nel.org>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        "open list:SERIAL DRIVERS" <linux-serial@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
        "moderated list:ARM/FREESCALE IMX / MXC ARM ARCHITECTURE" 
        <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Tony Lindgren <tony@...mide.com>, Vignesh R <vigneshr@...com>,
        Tero Kristo <t-kristo@...com>,
        Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@....com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/6] serial: 8250_omap: Add support for AM654 UART controller

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@...com> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> On Wednesday 13 June 2018 02:36 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 01:01:22AM -0500, Nishanth Menon wrote:
>>> AM654 uses a UART controller that is compatible (partially) with
>>> existing 8250 UART, however, has a few differences with respect to DMA
>>> support and control paths. Introduce a base definition that allows us
>>> to build up the differences in follow on patches.
>>>
>>> Cc: Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@...com>
>>> Cc: Vignesh R <vigneshr@...com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Nishanth Menon <nm@...com>
>>> ---
>>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/omap_serial.txt | 1 +
>>>  drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_omap.c                      | 1 +
>>>  2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/omap_serial.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/omap_serial.txt
>>> index 4b0f05adb228..c35d5ece1156 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/omap_serial.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/omap_serial.txt
>>> @@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
>>>  OMAP UART controller
>>>
>>>  Required properties:
>>> +- compatible : should be "ti,am654-uart" for AM654 controllers
>>
>> Not compatible with any existing TI 8250 UARTs?
>
> Curious on why you asked about this. Are you suggesting why not:
>
> "ti,<new-soc>-uart", "ti,<old-soc>-uart"

Correct.

> or you are asking why introduce "ti,<new-soc>-uart" unless there is
> clear demonstrable need for using it in driver code.
>
> In general, I think "ti,<new-soc>-uart", "ti,<old-soc>-uart" in
> device-tree (and by extension in binding document) is better even in
> there are no _known_ incompatibilities at the time of initial driver
> submission. The reason is silicon integration and process differences
> many times spill over into driver.

Yes, and chip designers can't be trusted. ;)

> Of course, the idea is not to go postal and create a new compatible for
> every pin-compatible part number that gets created, but probably a new
> compatible should be created for a new silicon die.

Yes, that's the criteria I would use too. That's sometimes hard if
it's not the chip vendor doing the DT bindings.

> We have just started introducing support for this SoC, and since it
> reuses many IPs, this question is likely to come up again.
>
> In this particular case though, Nishanth is perfectly right in not saying
>
> compatible : should be "ti,am654-uart", "ti,omap4-uart"
>
> Because we *know* UART DMA integration is different and a match against
> omap4 would result in non-working UART once DMA is enabled by default.

Okay, makes sense. I'd suggest rewording the commit message to include
this. The "compatible to 8250 except for DMA" part I would have
applied to all TI UARTs rather than DMA differences with other TI
UARTs.

Rob

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