linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/3][RFC] Introduce the in-kernel hibernation encryption

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Message-ID: <20180625115500.GC17001@amd>
Date:   Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:55:00 +0200
From:   Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:     Yu Chen <yu.c.chen@...el.com>
Cc:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>,
        "Lee, Chun-Yi" <jlee@...e.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3][RFC] Introduce the in-kernel hibernation encryption

On Fri 2018-06-22 10:14:10, Yu Chen wrote:
> Hi,
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 09:14:43PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Thu 2018-06-21 14:08:40, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz> wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > >> As security becomes more and more important, we add the in-kernel
> > > >> encryption support for hibernation.
> > > > ...
> > > >> There was a discussion on the mailing list on whether this key should
> > > >> be derived in kernel or in user space. And it turns out to be generating
> > > >> the key by user space is more acceptable[1]. So this patch set is divided
> > > >> into two parts:
> > > >> 1. The hibernation snapshot encryption in kernel space,
> > > >> 2. the key derivation implementation in user space.
> > > >
> > > > uswsusp was created so that this kind of stuff could be kept in
> > > > userspace. You get graphical progress bar (etc) too. As you already
> > > > have userspace component for key derivation, I see no advantages to
> > > > uswsusp.
> > > >
> > > > If you have some, please explain.
> > > 
> > > Not having to transfer plain text kernel memory to user space is one
> > > IMO.
> > 
> > Well, AFAICT in this case userland has the key and encrypted data are
> > on disk. That does not seem to be improvement.
> > 
> uswsusp needs to read the snapshot from kernel first, while
> do encryption in kernel directly would reduce the IO. Besides,
> the kernel memory content is protect from been read from
> user space from first place, although finally they are
> encrypted on the disk.

If you believe you solution is faster, please benchmark it. I don't
believe it will be.

									Pavel
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