linux-kernel - Re: Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB

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Message-ID: <6b25bd4b-d218-55a0-6687-b17fbf7e5c97@earthlink.net>
Date:   Thu, 28 Jun 2018 05:31:18 -0700
From:   jdow <jdow@...thlink.net>
To:     Martin Steigerwald <martin@...htvoll.de>
Cc:     Michael Schmitz <schmitzmic@...il.com>,
        Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        David Sterba <dsterba@...e.cz>,
        Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
        linux-m68k <linux-m68k@...ts.linux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB

On 20180628 04:38, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Martin Steigerwald - 28.06.18, 13:30:
>> jdow - 28.06.18, 12:00:
>>> On 20180628 01:16, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>> […]
>>
>>>>> That brings to the fore an interesting question. Why bother with
>>>>> RDBs
>>>>> over 2TB unless you want a disk with one single partition? This
>>>>> Win10
>>>>> monster I am using has a modest BIOS driver partition for the OS
>>>>> and
>>>>> a giant data partition. That smaller partition would easily work
>>>>> with
>>>>> any RDB/Filesystem combination since 2.0. So there are some good
>>>>> workarounds that are probably "safer" and at least as flexible as
>>>>> RDBs, one Linux has used for a very long time, too.
>>>>
>>>> Well, my use case was simple:
>>>>
>>>> I had this 2 TB disk and I choose to share it as a backup disk for
>>>> Linux *and* AmigaOS 4.x on that Sam440ep I still have next to me
>>>> desk here.
>>>
>>> EEEEEEK! The hair on my neck is standing up straight! Have you heard
>>> of SAMBA? The linux mail server firewall etc machine has an extra
>>> 4TB
>>> disk on it as a backup for the other systems, although a piddly 4TB
>>> is small when I save the entire 3G RAID system I have. It's a proof
>>> of concept so.... A full backup on a 1gig Ethernet still takes a
>>> looooong time. But backing up even an 18GB disk on an Amiga via
>>> 100Base-t isn't too bad. And disk speeds of the era being what they
>>> were it's about all you can do anyway.
>>
>> Heh, the thing worked just fine in Amiga OS 4. I got away with it
>> without an issue, until I plugged the disk to my Linux laptop and
>> wrote data onto the Linux file system. Mind you, I think in that
>> partition marked LNX\0 I even created a Linux LVM with pvcreate. Do
>> you call that insane? Well it probably is. :)
>>
>> And as an Amiga user I could just return to you: I clicked it, it did
>> not warn, so all is good :)
>>
>> But yeah, as mentioned I researched the topic before. And I think
>> there
>> has not even been an overflow within the RDB:
>>> The raw, theoretical limit on the maximum device capacity is about
>>> 2^105 bytes:
>>>
>>> 32 bit rdb_Cylinders * 32 bit rdb_Heads * 32 bit rdb_Sectors * 512
>>> bytes/sector for the HD size in struct RigidDiskBlock
>>
>> http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/RDB_(Amiga_Rigid_Disk_Block)
>>
>> Confirmed by:
>>
>> The .ADF (Amiga Disk File) format FAQ:
>> http://lclevy.free.fr/adflib/adf_info.html#p6
>>
>> But what do I write, you know the RDB format :)
>>
>> So just do the calculation in 96 Bit and you all are set :)
> 
> For sectors.
> 
> Or
> 
> 3*32+9 (for 512 bytes per sector) = 105 bits
> 
> for bytes.
> 
>> Now that is a reason for 128 Bit CPUs :).
>>
>> Muuhahaha.

And if you make the logical block size 65536 you need 128 bits or 10^something 
big = 2^128.
{^_-}