linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v4 00/17] khwasan: kernel hardware assisted address sanitizer

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Message-ID: <20180629110709.GA17859@arm.com>
Date:   Fri, 29 Jun 2018 12:07:10 +0100
From:   Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
To:     Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/17] khwasan: kernel hardware assisted address
 sanitizer

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 08:56:41PM +0200, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@....com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 03:15:10PM +0200, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
> >> 1. By using the Top Byte Ignore arm64 CPU feature, we can store pointer
> >>    tags in the top byte of each kernel pointer.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > This is a change from the current situation, so the kernel may be
> > making implicit assumptions about the top byte of kernel addresses.
> >
> > Randomising the top bits may cause things like address conversions and
> > pointer arithmetic to break.
> >
> > For example, (q - p) will not produce the expected result if q and p
> > have different tags.
> 
> If q and p have different tags, that means they come from different
> allocations. I don't think it would make sense to calculate pointer
> difference in this case.

It might not seen sensible, but we could still be relying on this in the
kernel and so this change would introduce a regression. I think we need
a way to identify such pointer usage before these patches can seriously be
considered for mainline inclusion. For example use of '>' and '<' to
compare pointers in an rbtree could be affected by the introduction of
tags.

Will