linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent

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Date:   Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:17:04 -0700
From:   "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:     David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
Cc:     Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, mhillenb@...zon.de,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        kvm <kvm@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent_qs
 requested

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 05:53:51AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 01:00:42PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 14:08 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Also... why in $DEITY's name was the existing
> > > > rcu_virt_note_context_switch() not actually sufficient? If we had that
> > > > there, why did we need an additional explicit calls to rcu_all_qs() in
> > > > the KVM loop, or the more complex fixes to need_resched() which
> > > > ultimately had the same effect, to avoid ten-second latencies?
> > > 
> > > My guess is that this was because control passed through the
> > > rcu_virt_note_context_switch() only once, and then subsequent
> > > scheduling-clock interrupts bypassed this code.
> 
> Gah!  My guess was instead that the code did a rcu_kvm_enter() going in,
> but somehow managed to miss the rcu_kvm_exit() going out.  But that makes
> absolutely no sense -- had that happened, rcutorture would likely have
> screamed bloody murder, loudly and often.  No mere near misses!
> 
> And besides, thus far, -ENOREPRODUCE.  :-/

OK, one close call in 63 hours of rcutorture, this one on scenario TREE03
(yesterday hit TREE01 and TREE03).  Time for probabilitistic long-runtime
bisection.  Plus thought about how to get more information out of the near
misses.  Fun!  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

> Which indicates that I have an opportunity to improve rcutorture and
> that this patch was with high probability an innocent bystander.
> 
> > >                                                  But that is just a guess.
> > > I need to defer to someone who understands the KVM code better than I do.
> > 
> > I think it's more likely that we just never happened at all. It's
> > conditional. From the latest patch iteration (see it being removed):
> > 
> > @@ -118,12 +118,12 @@ static inline void guest_enter_irqoff(void)
> >          * one time slice). Lets treat guest mode as quiescent state, just like
> >          * we do with user-mode execution.
> >          */
> > -       if (!context_tracking_cpu_is_enabled())
> > -               rcu_virt_note_context_switch(smp_processor_id());
> > +       rcu_kvm_enter();
> >  }
> > 
> > 
> > Given the vmexit overhead, I don't think we can do the currently-
> > proposed rcu_kvm_enter() thing except for CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL where it's
> > really necessary. I'll make that conditional, but probably on the RCU
> > side.
> > 
> > Without CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL, rcu_kvm_exit() can do nothing, and
> > rcu_kvm_enter() can do rcu_virt_note_context_switch().
> > 
> > OK?
> 
> Makes sense to me!  And a big "thank you!" to Christian for testing
> and analyzing this in a timely fashion!!!
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul