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Message-ID: <20180712183344.GQ2476@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:   Thu, 12 Jul 2018 20:33:44 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:     Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@...rulasolutions.com>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        LKMM Maintainers -- Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com>,
        Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
        Daniel Lustig <dlustig@...dia.com>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Jade Alglave <j.alglave@....ac.uk>,
        Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@...ia.fr>,
        Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>,
        Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tools/memory-model: Add extra ordering for locks and
 remove it for ordinary release/acquire

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 01:04:27PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> Which raises the question of whether RCtso (adopting Daniel's suggested
> term) is also too subtle or counter-intuitive for spinlocks. 

IMO yes, RCtso also sucks :-) But in my 'fight' for RCsc it disallows
RCpc and captures the current state of affairs more accurately.

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