linux-kernel - Re: [RFC][PATCH 09/11] tty_io: Use do_send_sig_info in __do

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Message-ID: <CA+55aFxNMPgg3Y7m8hCjtaFVERPL6LaXPKcbBmz-6C=8_FMpKg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:50:28 -0700
From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:     Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Wen Yang <wen.yang99@....com.cn>, majiang <ma.jiang@....com.cn>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 09/11] tty_io: Use do_send_sig_info in __do_SACK to
 forcibly kill tasks

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:08 AM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com> wrote:
>
> The change for global init is it will now die if init is a member of the
> session or init is using this tty as it's controlling tty.
>
> Semantically killing init with SAK is completely appropriate.

No.

Semtnaitcally killing init is completely wrong. Because it will kill
the whole system.

And I don't mean that in "now init won't spawn new things". I mean
that in "now we don't have a child reaper any more, and the system
will be dead because we'll panic on exit".

So it's not about the controlling tty, it's about fundamental kernel
internal consistency guarantees.

See

        write_unlock_irq(&tasklist_lock);
        if (unlikely(pid_ns == &init_pid_ns)) {
                panic("Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x%08x\n",
                        father->signal->group_exit_code ?: father->exit_code);
        }

in kernel/exit.c.

               Linus