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Message-ID: <20180727083104.GI11258@linaro.org>
Date:   Fri, 27 Jul 2018 17:31:06 +0900
From:   AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@...aro.org>
To:     James Morse <james.morse@....com>
Cc:     catalin.marinas@....com, will.deacon@....com, dhowells@...hat.com,
        vgoyal@...hat.com, herbert@...dor.apana.org.au,
        davem@...emloft.net, dyoung@...hat.com, bhe@...hat.com,
        arnd@...db.de, schwidefsky@...ibm.com, heiko.carstens@...ibm.com,
        ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org, bhsharma@...hat.com,
        kexec@...ts.infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 16/16] arm64: kexec_file: add kaslr support

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:40:49PM +0100, James Morse wrote:
> Hi Akashi,
> 
> On 24/07/18 07:57, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> > Adding "kaslr-seed" to dtb enables triggering kaslr, or kernel virtual
> > address randomization, at secondary kernel boot.
> 
> Hmm, there are three things that get moved by CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_BASE. The kernel
> physical placement when booted via the EFIstub, the kernel-text VAs and the
> location of memory in the linear-map region. Adding the kaslr-seed only does the
> last two.

Yes, but I think that I and Mark has agreed that "kaslr" meant
"virtual" randomisation, not including "physical" randomisation.

> This means the physical placement of the new kernel is predictable from
> /proc/iomem ... but this also tells you the physical placement of the current
> kernel, so I don't think this is a problem.
> 
> 
> > We always do this as it will have no harm on kaslr-incapable kernel.
> 
> > We don't have any "switch" to turn off this feature directly, but still
> > can suppress it by passing "nokaslr" as a kernel boot argument.
> 
> 
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/machine_kexec_file.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/machine_kexec_file.c
> > index 7356da5a53d5..47a4fbd0dc34 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/machine_kexec_file.c
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/machine_kexec_file.c
> > @@ -158,6 +160,12 @@ static int setup_dtb(struct kimage *image,
> 
> Don't you need to reserve some space in the area you vmalloc()d for the DT?

No, I don't think so.
All the data to be loaded are temporarily saved in kexec buffers,
which will eventually be copied to target locations in machine_kexec
(arm64_relocate_new_kernel, which, unlike its name, will handle
not only kernel but also other data as well).

> 
> > +	/* add kaslr-seed */
> > +	get_random_bytes(&value, sizeof(value));
> 
> What happens if the crng isn't ready?
> 
> It looks like this will print a warning that these random-bytes aren't really up
> to standard, but the new kernel doesn't know this happened.
> 
> crng_ready() isn't exposed, all we could do now is
> wait_for_random_bytes(), but that may wait forever because we do this
> unconditionally.
> 
> I'd prefer to leave this feature until we can check crng_ready(), and skip
> adding a dodgy-seed if its not-ready. This avoids polluting the next-kernel's
> entropy pool.

OK. I would try to follow the same way as Bhupesh's userspace patch
does for kaslr-seed:
http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/kexec/2018-April/020564.html

  if (not found kaslr-seed in 1st kernel's dtb)
     don't care; go ahead
  else
     if (current kaslr-seed != 0)
        error
     if (crng_ready()) ; FIXME, it's a local macro
        get_random_bytes(non-blocking)
        set new kaslr-seed
     else
        error

> 
> > +	ret = fdt_setprop(buf, nodeoffset, "kaslr-seed", &value, sizeof(value));
> 
> Nit: It would be nice if this string were in a header file somewhere, to void
> future refactoring typos.

OK. (but in this file for now as I mentioned in my previous reply)

Thanks,
-Takahiro AKASHI

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James

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